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Inspector Sands
Did I see a trail recently for something using Tomorrow's World as a strand name rather than the name of a specific programme?

Yes, that's how it's being used now. If you've seen the series on Sunday nights about training to be an Astronaut, that is preceeded by a Tomorrow's World sting
DE88 and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos
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VMPhil
Here's a BBC1 breakdown where they can't go back to Birmingham for Anne and Nick. I wonder if the long pause on the last trailer is because the continuity announcer is being informed there's no programme to go back to. Also interesting as it features Good Morning with Anne and Nick in its death throes with a rockier arrangement of the theme tune and a different logo and title sequence, of which there aren't any other clips on YouTube.

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Steve in Pudsey
[Replying to Inspector Sands re Lindsay Fallow]
Looks like she's written a book, and did the keynote at a digital healthcare conference last year.
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DE88
Tomorrow's World wasn't doing especially well in the early nineties - in 1991 it was moved from 8pm to the 7.30 death slot against Corrie, and got a bit of a radical revamp then as well. John Diamond joined the line-up to look at The Lighter Side Of Technology, albeit only for a few weeks, and there were other changes too. But I remember it wasn't especially well-received and there was a feature about it on Biteback with people arguing it wasn't any good anymore and a bit of a shambles. I remember they showed a clip of Carmen Pryce spectacularly forgetting her lines during one item.


That particular revamp brought with it the Blackwell theme, as well as this title sequence - abstractly spelling out the programme's name, but of course without the fun (or, indeed, effort) of the fried egg and ball bearings:



The presenting line-up didn't change drastically, however, with only Peter Macann moving on (replaced by Carmen and John). And, of course, the studio demos remained.

Was it true Carol was sacked simply because she was in an advert for Ariel or something?


Well, that was how the press reported it, anyway.

The trouble started with the ad itself, of course:



In her book, Carol says that the BBC wanted the ad pulled, which neither she nor Ariel wanted. She pointed out that Noel Edmonds, Terry Wogan and Gary Rhodes were, like her, all presenting high-profile BBC shows and advertising commercial products at the same time; the BBC responded by telling her that it didn't count as their shows were all different to TW.

In the end, the BBC allowed the ad to continue running, but told Carol that she would have to leave if Ariel took up the option for another ad - which, she says, they were entitled to do under her contract with them. Sure enough, Ariel took up that option, and the BBC duly let her go - which, she stresses, they were entitled to do too. She goes on to say that before anything else could happen, the press got hold of the story, twisted it to make it sound like she had been sacked, and then all hell broke loose...

Although I don't find her very likeable these days, I don't see why she would be lying here. I'm sure some people think differently, though.
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Steve in Pudsey
AIUI The Mary Whitehouse Experience was fairly topical and wouldn't make sense to today's audience. But I guess that hasn't stopped repeats of Mock the Week and HIGNFY.

The radio version was topical, particularly the contributions by Mark Thomas and other guest performers.


A full episode of the radio version has turned up on YouTube, which seems to be The Now Show with a different name and added Newman and Baddiel.

DE88 and Inspector Sands gave kudos
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Well, that was how the press reported it, anyway.

The trouble started with the ad itself, of course:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urtUPcVyLT0

In her book, Carol says that the BBC wanted the ad pulled, which neither she nor Ariel wanted. She pointed out that Noel Edmonds, Terry Wogan and Gary Rhodes were, like her, all presenting high-profile BBC shows and advertising commercial products at the same time; the BBC responded by telling her that it didn't count as their shows were all different to TW.

In the end, the BBC allowed the ad to continue running, but told Carol that she would have to leave if Ariel took up the option for another ad - which, she says, they were entitled to do under her contract with them. Sure enough, Ariel took up that option, and the BBC duly let her go - which, she stresses, they were entitled to do too. She goes on to say that before anything else could happen, the press got hold of the story, twisted it to make it sound like she had been sacked, and then all hell broke loose...

Although I don't find her very likeable these days, I don't see why she would be lying here. I'm sure some people think differently, though.


Surly if she did something wrong the ITC would have said something since there made it clear about the advert rules?
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Inspector Sands

Surly if she did something wrong the ITC would have said something since there made it clear about the advert rules?

Nothing to do with the ITC, or the BACC who cleared adverts for broadcast then. They wouldn't care that the BBC weren't happy with her doing the ad as long as it complied with their rules
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Inspector Sands

A full episode of the radio version has turned up on YouTube, which seems to be The Now Show with a different name and added Newman and Baddiel

Yes the two are similar, although later MWE less so as the number of guest spots declined. Not surprising as they were both devised by the same producer, Bill Dare.
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Surly if she did something wrong the ITC would have said something since there made it clear about the advert rules?

Nothing to do with the ITC, or the BACC who cleared adverts for broadcast then. They wouldn't care that the BBC weren't happy with her doing the ad as long as it complied with their rules


remember she was also on Countdown and other ITV shows at the time, so if there cleared with that happening, its the BBC own uppity problem.
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Inspector Sands
Here's a BBC1 breakdown where they can't go back to Birmingham for Anne and Nick. I wonder if the long pause on the last trailer is because the continuity announcer is being informed there's no programme to go back to.

I'd have thought it was because the network director realised that they didn't have any programme to go to so waited on the end of the trail. It could have been that the line was only lost during the trails so it gives them a few more seconds in case it reappeared.

I don't know if there was meant to be a globe/announcement in that junction, but what else could they do
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Steve in Pudsey
Would there have been a network director at that point or was the announcer running things solo? I know for some of the early and daytime output the Continuity studio output was taken directly by network rather than the main NC1 gallery
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Inspector Sands
Would there have been a network director at that point or was the announcer running things solo? I know for some of the early and daytime output the Continuity studio output was taken directly by network rather than the main NC1 gallery

I've not heard that, as far as I know the only bit of the schedule that was operated by the announcer was Open University, maybe schools or early Breakfast Time?


That junction looks fairly complicated - out of live show, into news then opt out then back into a live programme. And that happened every hour with 3 different live programmes. It would have needed a director.

In 1996 the channels were coming from the NTA which was the first automated playout area with just one director in the suite (unlike the galleries prior to that which had several people). The announcers booths just had audio controls and the suite wasn't set up for voiceovers.


Incidently what region was that 'North News' bulletin? What a vague title, though it looked great
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