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IS
Inspector Sands
Angus is a wonderful comic actor and writer, and it's a crying shame he doesn't do that on telly so much these days.

Funny you should have mentioned that:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38688912
BR
Brekkie
Didn't he host Hells Kitchen?
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A former member
Yes he did.
GO
gottago
Till he got canned for Claudia Winkleman.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
An original Japanese episode of Takeshi's Castle:



If nothing else this provides a lot of background to the original premise of the show, the "games" and how the format actually worked in its native country - as opposed to being just a collection of people making a pigs ear of the challenges, the show is presented in more of a documentary style than the Challenge/MXC episodes would have you believe.
LL
Larry the Loafer
I could've sworn its original form was a sort of variety show with the gameshow element (the bits we saw) interspersed. I'm very surprised. It still astounds me, thinking back to when I watched it for the first time on Challenge, that I was actually watching stuff that was shot in the mid 80s.
AN
Andrew Founding member
What would the rest of the network have seen when the crash card came up? A chance it could have triggered an equivalent at each station?

Yes, each station would have done their own thing and put up their own equivalent... assuming they were quick enough which they might not have been for the first occasion


It would be really interesting to see another region's version of that clip. The director instructs Pres to take the crash card away after the second balls up is rectified - would all the regions hear this, but with only LNN having the ability to talk back to Fountain?

LNN didn't go back right away as directed because the announcer was in the middle of apologising - does that mean other regions may have gone back slightly sooner?


Sorry for harking back to the Talking Telephone Numbers clip but I'd seen inferior discussion of it on DS, I thought I hadn't missed a discussion here, I didn't think of looking in this forum.

How other regions would have handled it is interesting to me, presumably only Carlton had a link to the production gallery in their role as nominated contractor, so did Carlton then have an open talkback link to the other regions of would breakdown cards have been fired manually based on watching the programme off air in each region.

The bit at the end of the second breakdown where the director shouts "Pres go back, pres go back, PRES GO BACK!" Presumably only applied to Carlton, other regions may have been slower to go back, particularly if they did a 'well we are glad to say we can return...' Announcement, and if they had done that the winning phone number might have been on screen for only a few seconds.
BH
BillyH Founding member
I could've sworn its original form was a sort of variety show with the gameshow element (the bits we saw) interspersed. I'm very surprised. It still astounds me, thinking back to when I watched it for the first time on Challenge, that I was actually watching stuff that was shot in the mid 80s.


I remember a lot of people on the old Challenge forum being very confused whenever they read the show was filmed in the 1980s, as they kept asking how Craig Charles was making references to current events from the early noughties in the commentary!

Some of the UK edited episodes were seriously dodgy - episodes where contestants won at the end (an extremely rare event) were occasionally not noticed, so you'd get half a second of a winning contestant celebrating before an abrupt cut to the credits, Craig Charles reading the script announcing no winners this time. But I suppose if you've got masses of episodes to edit in a short space of time then mistakes are bound to happen.
LL
Larry the Loafer
Sorry for harking back to the Talking Telephone Numbers clip but I'd seen inferior discussion of it on DS, I thought I hadn't missed a discussion here, I didn't think of looking in this forum.

How other regions would have handled it is interesting to me, presumably only Carlton had a link to the production gallery in their role as nominated contractor, so did Carlton then have an open talkback link to the other regions of would breakdown cards have been fired manually based on watching the programme off air in each region.

The bit at the end of the second breakdown where the director shouts "Pres go back, pres go back, PRES GO BACK!" Presumably only applied to Carlton, other regions may have been slower to go back, particularly if they did a 'well we are glad to say we can return...' Announcement, and if they had done that the winning phone number might have been on screen for only a few seconds.


It is funny how that video prompts more and more questions... I can't complain, I've been harking back to it more times than I should've. Somebody mentioned there was a UTV feed of the same fault on YouTube but it seems to have vanished, if it was ever there in the first place. My only guess is somebody was on standby to cut back to the feed when Carlton did - but then that's quashed when I consider that the Carlton slide wouldn't have gone out to the other regions.

Still astounds me how interesting that video really is. Makes you wonder what the talkback would be like to listen to during something more horrendous like cutting to the ads during the World Cup.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
I could've sworn its original form was a sort of variety show with the gameshow element (the bits we saw) interspersed. I'm very surprised. It still astounds me, thinking back to when I watched it for the first time on Challenge, that I was actually watching stuff that was shot in the mid 80s.


The Keshi Heads site suggests that comedic elements and linking skits were added later in the run; I posted what is labelled as "Series 1 Episode 1", so like a lot of very early TV shows the format and presentation was probably tweaked.

This map from the Keshi Heads website shows where each game was in relation to each other, looks a fairly decent outdoor area to play with and is now home to Ninja Warrior for two weeks of the year:
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JA
james-2001
Interesting that when you watch it in the original format it feels like a VERY different show to how Challenge's edit showed it.
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