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Whataday7,176 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
My fascination with that Talking Telephone Numbers video doesn't seem to fade. I seem to pick up on something new every time I watch it. Schofe's body language during the first apology still amuses me, looking around shiftily as if he knows nobody's going to buy his explanation of "transmitter problems".


Although interestingly the continuity announcer also mentions "a problem with the transmission of Talking Telephone Numbers". They're both on the same hymn sheet as it were, without any prompting. Perhaps that was the guideline in the event that VT ever went down.

Makes you think what they would have done if the VT had failed altogether and they couldn't generate the numbers!

(Small note: I notice that the point at which they return to live transmission is with Emma reading the question OOV, rather than cutting back to Phil)
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Larry the Loafer4,301 posts since 2 Jul 2005
Granada North West Today
(Small note: I notice that the point at which they return to live transmission is with Emma reading the question OOV, rather than cutting back to Phil)


I imagine cutting to a slide with Emma speaking made for a smoother transition. There's a bit of reverb when she speaks which gives it away ever so slightly that they weren't live all the way through.
Inspector Sands10,632 posts since 25 Aug 2004
Emma was up on the balcony at the time, at one point during the aborted VT the director asks her to go up there (it's where she introduced the band from) which might explain the different acoustic
scottishtv1,515 posts since 6 Nov 2001
STV Central Reporting Scotland
Because transmitter problems make programmes play in fast forward Wink

I thought he maybe meant "transmission problems" and it just came out wrong in the rush, but then goes on to say how they "might be in your area" and "nothing wrong with what's coming out of the studio". Haha clearly thinking on his feet and just confuses matters a bit. Also, seems to me that he takes it quite personally that the whole 'magic of television' has been revealed.

I liked Philip as a presenter in his younger years, but was rather surprised at how quickly he became a little passive-aggressive in this cock-up! Plenty of little barbed references throughout the rest of the show.

Also, the early reference to taking "three calls", did they screen the answers and then knowingly put two incorrect callers on first, or was the assumption that a lot of callers were a bit dim so there would be time for three? I didn't realise it would be fairly normal for the show to finish without anyone winning.
scottishtv1,515 posts since 6 Nov 2001
STV Central Reporting Scotland
Oh, another question: I'm assuming the fast forward was being used to get to the closing credits ready from the same tape? Was the equipment so expensive they couldn't have different machines to play out the different bits of pre-records? Wouldn't have prevented the problem here, but I was curious about the VT clock showing the next bit on the tape was "Closing Credits".

Could've looked even worse then if Carlton didn't jump in with that slide.
Inspector Sands10,632 posts since 25 Aug 2004
VT machines were fairly expensive but you wouldn't normally have a different machine for each insert. Remember that with some programmes there might be several machines recording the studio output at the same time.

The recorded bits would all be compiled into an insert reel in the order they're needed and played out from the same machine. Of course there might be two VT machines and two copies either as backups or if there were inserts where there wouldn't be enough time to cue them.

In this case I'd have thought there were only 4 bits of VT - the titles, the acts in part 1, the acts in part 2, and the credits.

Of course these days they'd all be played off some video server system
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Larry the Loafer4,301 posts since 2 Jul 2005
Granada North West Today
Also, the early reference to taking "three calls", did they screen the answers and then knowingly put two incorrect callers on first, or was the assumption that a lot of callers were a bit dim so there would be time for three? I didn't realise it would be fairly normal for the show to finish without anyone winning.


One of the callers said he changed his answer to what he originally said, so it's possible they were asked what their answers were before they were put through. Having said that, the gallery still exclaim when the caller answers a question wrong, so I can't work it out.
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Inspector Sands10,632 posts since 25 Aug 2004
Schofe's body language during the first apology still amuses me, looking around shiftily as if he knows nobody's going to buy his explanation of "transmitter problems".


Although interestingly the continuity announcer also mentions "a problem with the transmission of Talking Telephone Numbers".

Remember there's a difference between a transmitter and transmission in this context.


The area the announcer is in is called Transmission and the people in the next room to her are Transmission Controllers. They were responsible for transmitting the programme, and the transmission failed, although it wasn't their fault.

Therefore her use of the word is correct, she's not referring to anything to do with Crystal Palace.


Philips apology is tounge in cheek i would assume, he's savvy enough to know what actually happened (and of course worked in the BBC's equivalent transmission area for years)
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