Yes I read your post perfectly, and I was commenting on one of the items you mentioned. 'Jackass'
You are either totally thick or are just very good at keeping an argument going.
Your suggestion was that my ONLY complaint was the fact that the legal notice was copied. I am pointing out that this, like every other comment you make, is total nonsense.
I really will have to make this my last comment on the matter. Spent too much time with the mentally challenged for one day.
Listen to you all. "Hey this is mine", "No it's mine", "Well actually it's mine" blah blah.
You sound like a bunch of children,and behaving like them in some threads too, but that's another story.
Everyone has to start somewhere - but the site won't become successful if it's just a copy of another.
So what. The legal message is copied. Fair enough, you may have spent hours dreaming it up - big deal. Everyone's legal message is going to say ruffly the same and it's probably the most boring page of a site that no-one reads. I myself have copied TV Home's message before and no-one mentioned it - I couldn't be bothered typing my own and it covered the topic I was making a site about.
Images. An interesting topic. Yes anyone with a site puts in the effort to get all these images looking lovely and ready for their site. But yet again every pres site is going to have the same images. Although taking the image from another site and using it directly may not be the best way to do it, but then the site in question isn't going to become 'world famous' like the site it came from. Is it?
In todays world of Pres websites they all have this similar trend and I know of only one which is completely different from every other.
All pres. sites consit of. Image, Info, Video Link. Correct? Yes in some shape or form that is your pres site. To get picky whoever had the first pres site could effectly call you all websnatchers for stealing the idea.
So what can we learn from my big outburst there. Well. You've got to start somewhere with a Pres site if your a novice. Some pres sites have the content but the presentation of it is dire. Most are all the same and only one I know of is actually different from them all.
Interesting. I seem to have covered pretty much everything mentioned and I started with the legal message. It would appear however you won't let the arguement drop about it. I think I'll give you a little quote.
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I don't intend discussing this matter further. However, 'Big Brother' and 'HMS'...do feel free to embarrass yourselves further. Goodnight.
This reminds me of the time Mike was having a bitch at me about Identz - I can't remember what the argument was about, but I recall it had something to do with the design of the site!
Oh please.
He taped them from the tv - illegal, piracy and it IS copyright.
I'll send an email off to the BBC about how the tv room is using bbc clips which license payers have being paying for and i'll keep complaining until they tell you to remove them. And we'l see how much your copyright notice is worth then sunshine. Nothing thats what it will be worth.
I dont think the BBC will do anything about it.
I run a Sky News Appeciation site and everyone at Sky News go's on the site and all i have received is Good Feedback.
Mike's website is a Much bigger site then mine in terms of Traffic and i think the BBC will Appreciate him using there Images and Videos.
The fact is that pres clips have little or no commercial value to a broadcaster. Like TV Room, we've had nothing but encouragement and support from broadcasters and often receive bits and bobs direct from them. Many TV pres webmasters have found the same to be true.
If ever someone commercially released a tape or DVD of idents or pres material, which would require them to get a huge amount of copyright clearance for a profit-making venture, then the situation for TV pres sites may become very different.
Copyright law is a muddle but it is usually enforced only where there is a direct commercial disadvantage - i.e. someone flogging pirated DVDs or videos of programmes, music or film OR if someone is claiming intellectual rights over property which does not belong to them (and as no TV pres website is likely to claim that they designed the ATV ident, there's unlikely to be a problem in this area).
Also, 'fair use' allows the use of properly credited clips for critical, illustrative and review purposes. Broadcasters often do this themselves in 'clip shows' and other progs.
Interpreting copyright law is like knitting fog and any case is usually expensive to bring and very expensive to defend. With that in view, we'd certainly always remove without hesitation anything that was contested and we state this on the site.
This argument is more about the tiny minority who want to put up a TV pres site but don't have their their own material and so rip off the hard work of others.
Oh please.
He taped them from the tv - illegal, piracy and it IS copyright.
I'll send an email off to the BBC about how the tv room is using bbc clips which license payers have being paying for and i'll keep complaining until they tell you to remove them. And we'l see how much your copyright notice is worth then sunshine. Nothing thats what it will be worth.
I dont think the BBC will do anything about it.
I run a Sky News Appeciation site and everyone at Sky News go's on the site and all i have received is Good Feedback.
Mike's website is a Much bigger site then mine in terms of Traffic and i think the BBC will Appreciate him using there Images and Videos.
We shall see if the BBC do anything about it or not. I will keep on and on about it until they do something. As a license payer i won't tollerate it and i expect action to be taken.
We shall see if the BBC do anything about it or not. I will keep on and on about it until they do something. As a license payer i won't tollerate it and i expect action to be taken.
We shall see if the BBC do anything about it or not. I will keep on and on about it until they do something. As a license payer i won't tollerate it and i expect action to be taken.
Like they are going to listen to you!
Oh they will.
I won't stop until action is taken. I'll email, write and phone. Like hell am i giving up.
