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skyviewer
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:

I donīt think that it costs something to put a narrow band live stream on the net.

I'm not familiar with what the costs involved are but they obviously they don't see it as a priority, and they obviously don't think there are enough phil94's to make it worthwhile.

And having a live web stream is nowadays essential.

In what sense?


They are advertising so often that you can watch skynews on the move, but to me it is sad that this is only referred to the UK and Ireland . The BBC News is available online here as well and this is what irritates me.
JO
Jon
phil94 posted:
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:

I donīt think that it costs something to put a narrow band live stream on the net.

I'm not familiar with what the costs involved are but they obviously they don't see it as a priority, and they obviously don't think there are enough phil94's to make it worthwhile.

And having a live web stream is nowadays essential.

In what sense?


They are advertising so often that you can watch skynews on the move, but to me it is sad that this is only referred to the UK and Ireland . The BBC News is available online here as well and this is what irritates me.

Surely the vast majority of the audience for a UK news channel are in the UK, anyone they get from outside is a bonus.

The advertisers are paying for UK audiences.
GH
George Hill
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:

I donīt think that it costs something to put a narrow band live stream on the net.

I'm not familiar with what the costs involved are but they obviously they don't see it as a priority, and they obviously don't think there are enough phil94's to make it worthwhile.

And having a live web stream is nowadays essential.

In what sense?


They are advertising so often that you can watch skynews on the move, but to me it is sad that this is only referred to the UK and Ireland . The BBC News is available online here as well and this is what irritates me.

Surely the vast majority of the audience for a UK news channel are in the UK, anyone they get from outside is a bonus.

The advertisers are paying for UK audiences.


Sky News is aimed at the UK. They treat any other viewers at a bonus, but don't really seek them out.
SK
skyviewer
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:
Jon posted:
phil94 posted:

I donīt think that it costs something to put a narrow band live stream on the net.

I'm not familiar with what the costs involved are but they obviously they don't see it as a priority, and they obviously don't think there are enough phil94's to make it worthwhile.

And having a live web stream is nowadays essential.

In what sense?


They are advertising so often that you can watch skynews on the move, but to me it is sad that this is only referred to the UK and Ireland . The BBC News is available online here as well and this is what irritates me.

Surely the vast majority of the audience for a UK news channel are in the UK, anyone they get from outside is a bonus.

The advertisers are paying for UK audiences.

Sure, but they have an international version . Not a real one like BBC WORLD NEWS but at least with a nice breakfiller.
SK
skyviewer
I am sorry for stiring up the thread again , but such things matter to me.
JO
Jon
phil94 posted:
I am sorry for stiring up the thread again , but such things matter to me.

We understand, we really do. Crying or Very sad
IT
itsrobert Founding member
phil94 posted:

Sure, but they have an international version . Not a real one like BBC WORLD NEWS but at least with a nice breakfiller .


I don't think I'd agree with that. I was in Rome last week and relied on Sky News as the only source of British news (BBC World was obsessed with Egypt and Syria all the time). I thought the international breakfiller was pretty dire. For a kick off the music is far too quiet. Second, the news headlines are not detailed enough. Third, information was at times out of date or inaccurate. For instance, throughout my entire time in Rome, Sky News' breakfiller told me the temperature was 29C. When in actual fact, it was more like 35C-38C. If you want to see an example of a good breakfiller, I'd point you towards the BBC World breakfillers of the late 1990s and early 2000s.
SK
skyviewer
itsrobert posted:
phil94 posted:

Sure, but they have an international version . Not a real one like BBC WORLD NEWS but at least with a nice breakfiller .


I don't think I'd agree with that. I was in Rome last week and relied on Sky News as the only source of British news (BBC World was obsessed with Egypt and Syria all the time). I thought the international breakfiller was pretty dire. For a kick off the music is far too quiet. Second, the news headlines are not detailed enough. Third, information was at times out of date or inaccurate. For instance, throughout my entire time in Rome, Sky News' breakfiller told me the temperature was 29C. When in actual fact, it was more like 35C-38C. If you want to see an example of a good breakfiller, I'd point you towards the BBC World breakfillers of the late 1990s and early 2000s.


I actually agree with you but I had to say something positive... What annoys me most with that breakfiller is that the music interrupts after every section and starts again. Furthermore there are often graphic problems with empty news sections and wrongly related pictures
PE
Pete Founding member
phil94 posted:
I am sorry for stiring up the thread again , but such things matter to me.


yes but as with so many things that matter to you they matter precious little to anyone else.
JW
JamesWorldNews
phil94 posted:
itsrobert posted:
phil94 posted:

Sure, but they have an international version . Not a real one like BBC WORLD NEWS but at least with a nice breakfiller .


I don't think I'd agree with that. I was in Rome last week and relied on Sky News as the only source of British news (BBC World was obsessed with Egypt and Syria all the time). I thought the international breakfiller was pretty dire. For a kick off the music is far too quiet. Second, the news headlines are not detailed enough. Third, information was at times out of date or inaccurate. For instance, throughout my entire time in Rome, Sky News' breakfiller told me the temperature was 29C. When in actual fact, it was more like 35C-38C. If you want to see an example of a good breakfiller, I'd point you towards the BBC World breakfillers of the late 1990s and early 2000s.


I actually agree with you but I had to say something positive... What annoys me most with that breakfiller is that the music interrupts after every section and starts again. Furthermore there are often graphic problems with empty news sections and wrongly related pictures


Nail on the head there, Rob. The other thing about the international break filler music is that it's very quiet during the news headlines, but loud during the business headlines, then quieter again for the weather or sport headlines. Not sure why they can't get the volume to be consistent throughout.

Whilst in the UK this last ten days, I watched quite a bit of Sky News, as well as BBC News Channel, if only because the daytime output on BBC and ITV channels is dire, and found that I quite enjoyed Sky News to be honest. Pacey. On the spot with input on all major stories and correspondents everywhere. The actual news content was good, I thought. If only they cut down the whooshes.........whoosh.
TH
Thomas
phil94 posted:
I am sorry for stiring up the thread again , but such things matter to me.


You're in Germany right? Do what it says here. Contact the providers.

http://www.skynewsinternational.com/watch/europe?cid=24
SK
skyviewer
Thomas posted:
phil94 posted:
I am sorry for stiring up the thread again , but such things matter to me.


You're in Germany right? Do what it says here. Contact the providers.

http://www.skynewsinternational.com/watch/europe?cid=24


Thank you, I have Kabel Deutschland and Satellite , and I can watch skynews uk and skynews intl, but what I meant is that there is no stream to watch it online.

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