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WH
Whataday Founding member Wales Wales Today
People also have different reasons for marking down mocks. I myself have had mocks greyed out because people don't like the concept even though they are of a technically high standard, whereas others have been marked down for poor technical ability even though they have a well thought out concept. Some also mark down mocks because they don't like the creator.

I also think greying out unpopular mocks is counter productive as besides creating a two class platform, the unpopular mocks are less likely to be seen and so there's less opportunity for constructive criticism which could help improvement.
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
With me its the concept. I have the ideas and can see them in my mind's eye but it's the technical aspects that I fall down spectacularly.
RE
Rexogamer London London

I also think greying out unpopular mocks is counter productive as besides creating a two class platform, the unpopular mocks are less likely to be seen and so there's less opportunity for constructive criticism which could help improvement.

Agreed, I personally tend to avoid the greyed-out mocks. Maybe a notice or some sort of symbol would be better?
Arqiva, just switch to DVB-T2 already...
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)

I also think greying out unpopular mocks is counter productive as besides creating a two class platform, the unpopular mocks are less likely to be seen and so there's less opportunity for constructive criticism which could help improvement.

Agreed, I personally tend to avoid the greyed-out mocks. Maybe a notice or some sort of symbol would be better?


Yes, that is an idea. Something straightforward but not insulting.
BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
The new topic thing causing confusion again today - seems someone started a new one for Sky Arts going FTA only for it to be folded back into the existing topic. It used to be pretty much the routine we'd have a thread for the build up to an event and then a new one when it actually happened.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
JB
JasonB London London
And already in the new GMB thread someone is asking what days Piers and Suzanna do.
Have you washed your hands?
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Madness, sheer madness.
TI
tightrope78 UTV Newsline
I have been a member of this forum for 15 years. I read the site multiple times a day, although I rarely contribute. I rarely contribute as there is usually a smart-ass comment from some relative newcomer just waiting around the corner to shoot down whatever comment you make.

Yes, rota talk was boring and creepy. For me the biggest problem is that in recent months the BBC News thread has become monotonous and boring, thanks mainly to a few members who use it as a chat room, not as a forum. Equally frustrating are those members that use TVForum as a substitute for Google, asking others inane questions (that they will not know the answer to). I don't like wading through pages of two/three word posts from the same handful of posters to try and get to interesting actual TV discussions. Tougher moderation is also required as certain posters get away with questionable political point scoring continually, whilst others are shot down immediately.
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I have been a member of this forum for 15 years. I read the site multiple times a day, although I rarely contribute. I rarely contribute as there is usually a smart-ass comment from some relative newcomer just waiting around the corner to shoot down whatever comment you make.

Yes, rota talk was boring and creepy. For me the biggest problem is that in recent months the BBC News thread has become monotonous and boring, thanks mainly to a few members who use it as a chat room, not as a forum. Equally frustrating are those members that use TVForum as a substitute for Google, asking others inane questions (that they will not know the answer to). I don't like wading through pages of two/three word posts from the same handful of posters to try and get to interesting actual TV discussions. Tougher moderation is also required as certain posters get away with questionable political point scoring continually, whilst others are shot down immediately.


I have been a member for just over 11 years and comment regularly but like you I have noticed a lot of "smart-arsery" recently. I will be honest here and say that I have been scared to post for fear of attracting the awkward squad and for someone who has mental health issues that isn't pleasant. I avoid rota talk like the plague as it seems to be the ouroboros of TVF and It's not just creepy but also "stalker-ish" which I find personally disturbing. I will admit that I am guilty of posting two or three word answers. My response to that is that sometimes I'm caught in the pincer movement if you will of wanting to say something but not sure what to say if that makes any sense The key word here is balance.

Finally and I think most importantly TVF isn't an information database. Yes I have learnt a hell of a lot which I'm grateful for, whether anyone had learnt anything from me is up for debate. I do get pissed off when people ask questions about when a show is coming here. You may have noticed that Asa did close such a thread that I replied to to which my defence is I was merely being courteous.
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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
Finally and I think most importantly TVF isn't an information database. Yes I have learnt a hell of a lot which I'm grateful for, whether anyone had learnt anything from me is up for debate. I do get pissed off when people ask questions about when a show is coming here. You may have noticed that Asa did close such a thread that I replied to to which my defence is I was merely being courteous.


The whole point of a web forum is to discuss things around a common shared interest. Much like any form of discussion you will almost certainly learn something, so a forum is to a certain extent an "information database", because otherwise if you don't have people with the information and you don't have people who will speculate in absence of the information, then you don't have a web forum, you just have a load of random ramblings about stuff with a tenacious "on-topic" link.

A forum is effectively 100% totally (usually higher quality) user generated content, just with more of a structure around the topic, as opposed to the likes of Facebook where you can post any old crap in any old group and attract six million likes in two seconds. On a forum you can't post any old crap anywhere you like, you have to fit in to the structure and the overarching topic. That's the difference I think a lot of people don't quite get.
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I think 98% of us do get it but sometimes as you well know for various reasons people can't quite grasp it, myself included. It is a learning process. Of course when you have a forum about any subject there will be those who have information and will gladly give it. One excellent example is Tony Currie who in my opinion is the closest thing to a superstar that TVF has.

Asa and the mods have thankfully realised that there is a lot of unnecessary and off topic crap on TVF and have started to clamp down. One thing that he didn't refer to and which I suggested was there was nothing on the new guidelines about Metropol which I'm glad to say he took on board.

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