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Inspector Sands14,809 posts since 25 Aug 2004
You’ll find the bbc happy giving away it’s services for free to the world whilst the British licence fee payer has to stump up money for Bobby Sue in Detroit to enjoy it.

You realise that most BBC services outside the UK carry advertising, including the website? Some other content is sold or licensed to other broadcasters, and some has subscription.


'Bobby Sue in Detroit' will get ads on bbc.com, will be paying to watch BBC America or Britbox or watching BBC content on a PBS station, who buy in BBC content
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Brekkie34,844 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
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Not online but tuned in to Radio 1 in the car earlier to catch a lengthy discussion about Ellie Golding witnessing a supposed car crash. Fine for Radio 1 to spend a few minutes talking about that I thought, but then realised it was 12.48 so was either the 1st or 2nd story on the main lunchtime edition Newsbeat.

Now obviously Newsbeat has a different agenda and this story has been featured on ITV News at least today, but no way should it have been treated as the top story. It's "And Finally" at best.
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PATV Scunthorpe765 posts since 2 Sep 2014
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Not online but tuned in to Radio 1 in the car earlier to catch a lengthy discussion about Ellie Golding witnessing a supposed car crash. Fine for Radio 1 to spend a few minutes talking about that I thought, but then realised it was 12.48 so was either the 1st or 2nd story on the main lunchtime edition Newsbeat.

Now obviously Newsbeat has a different agenda and this story has been featured on ITV News at least today, but no way should it have been treated as the top story. It's "And Finally" at best.

Listening back, they actually lead with Caroline Flack stepping down for this series of Love Island, however I can see why the lorry story was high up in the billing, it has been a big story on my Twitter feed over the last day, I imagine it may have also been because of the opportunity they had in coincidentally having Ellie Golding performing in the Live Lounge today as well, so had the chance of an interview from an eyewitness.
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radiolistener777 posts since 8 Aug 2010
You’ll find the bbc happy giving away it’s services for free to the world whilst the British licence fee payer has to stump up money for Bobby Sue in Detroit to enjoy it.

You realise that most BBC services outside the UK carry advertising, including the website? Some other content is sold or licensed to other broadcasters, and some has subscription.


'Bobby Sue in Detroit' will get ads on bbc.com, will be paying to watch BBC America or Britbox or watching BBC content on a PBS station, who buy in BBC content

If they are using the co UK they will get all radio and news services bar video for free.
Inspector Sands14,809 posts since 25 Aug 2004

If they are using the co UK they will get all radio and news services bar video for free.

Are you sure about that? Certainly not my experience when I've used the BBC website abroad (and at least once when I've been in the UK and they've thought I've been abroad). You get the international version with adverts, doesn't matter if you put .co.uk on the end or not


Yep I think the radio stations are available abroad for free, but the move to BBC Sounds has restricted a lot of content to those not in the UK I believe
TheMike158 posts since 12 Jan 2019
Central (East) East Midlands Today

If they are using the co UK they will get all radio and news services bar video for free.

Are you sure about that? Certainly not my experience when I've used the BBC website abroad (and at least once when I've been in the UK and they've thought I've been abroad). You get the international version with adverts, doesn't matter if you put .co.uk on the end or not


Yep I think the radio stations are available abroad for free, but the move to BBC Sounds has restricted a lot of content to those not in the UK I believe

In my experience, if you try putting bbc.co.uk when you're abroad, you get redirected to bbc.com. However, using O2 roaming earlier this year in Germany, it treated me as if I was in the UK with access to .co.uk and the iPlayer! As soon as the mobile flipped to hotel wifi, all the geo-blocking started!
noggin14,942 posts since 26 Jun 2001
You’ll find the bbc happy giving away it’s services for free to the world whilst the British licence fee payer has to stump up money for Bobby Sue in Detroit to enjoy it.

You realise that most BBC services outside the UK carry advertising, including the website? Some other content is sold or licensed to other broadcasters, and some has subscription.


'Bobby Sue in Detroit' will get ads on bbc.com, will be paying to watch BBC America or Britbox or watching BBC content on a PBS station, who buy in BBC content

If they are using the co UK they will get all radio and news services bar video for free.


Nope - non-UK IP addresses are redirected from .co.uk to .com (and vice versa) If you are outside the uk and go to bbc.co.uk/news you will be automatically redirected to bbc.com/news and get embedded adverts. (You can't get to the bbc.co.uk site from outside the UK unless you have an IP address that is associated with the UK)
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Andrew Wood3,810 posts since 30 Mar 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

If they are using the co UK they will get all radio and news services bar video for free.

Are you sure about that? Certainly not my experience when I've used the BBC website abroad (and at least once when I've been in the UK and they've thought I've been abroad). You get the international version with adverts, doesn't matter if you put .co.uk on the end or not


Yep I think the radio stations are available abroad for free, but the move to BBC Sounds has restricted a lot of content to those not in the UK I believe

In my experience, if you try putting bbc.co.uk when you're abroad, you get redirected to bbc.com. However, using O2 roaming earlier this year in Germany, it treated me as if I was in the UK with access to .co.uk and the iPlayer! As soon as the mobile flipped to hotel wifi, all the geo-blocking started!

Exactly the same with me when I was in Greece in the summer. Roaming allowed access to iPlayer, WiFi didn't.
dosxuk4,569 posts since 22 Oct 2005
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Are you sure about that? Certainly not my experience when I've used the BBC website abroad (and at least once when I've been in the UK and they've thought I've been abroad). You get the international version with adverts, doesn't matter if you put .co.uk on the end or not


Yep I think the radio stations are available abroad for free, but the move to BBC Sounds has restricted a lot of content to those not in the UK I believe

In my experience, if you try putting bbc.co.uk when you're abroad, you get redirected to bbc.com. However, using O2 roaming earlier this year in Germany, it treated me as if I was in the UK with access to .co.uk and the iPlayer! As soon as the mobile flipped to hotel wifi, all the geo-blocking started!

Exactly the same with me when I was in Greece in the summer. Roaming allowed access to iPlayer, WiFi didn't.


All the main UK mobile operators now tunnel their roaming data back to the UK before it's allowed out onto the public internet (seems to be closely related to countries that you get free roaming data in, so the whole EU and additional countries depending on your contact). There's various technical reasons for doing this, but getting a UK IP address is a side effect.

It doesn't mean that non-UK contacts also get routed through the UK. UK IP addresses get non-advert bbc.co.uk, non-UK IP addresses get advert supported bbc.com.
Inspector Sands14,809 posts since 25 Aug 2004
Years ago I was using the WiFi of a train company and that thought I wasn't in the UK so would only give me the non-UK versions of the BBC website.

IIRC I was in Germany, despite seeing Bedfordshire speeding past the window. Possibly something to do with the nationality of train company but none of the other German ones have the same issue