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The decline of BBC News online

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DT
DTV
Moz posted:
Does this mean the full switchover, including the logo, is imminent?


What a sad day it'll be when that Gill Sans 'NEWS' disappears from the news frontpage. Really an end to the reign of a typeface that couldn't be more BBC if it tried. Sure, Reith is a perfectly serviceable body font, but my god does it suck for logos.

My only hope is that, like all internal BBC rebrands, it gets undone by Lambie Nairn in five years time. Probably saying 'why would you design a corporate typeface that looks like somebody said 'design me a generic 2010s sans serif font'?, also does The Guardian know you've stolen a copy of Guardian Egyptian?'.

I guess what annoys me about Reith so much is that when I heard the BBC were designing a new corporate typeface it was described as being in the Gill Sans tradition. And that would be great - as much as I am fond of Gill Sans, there are several characters that could be improved and Bliss doesn't quite do it for me as a 21st century British humanist sans serif. But then to roll out something that looks like a cross between Segoe and Verdana - fonts that couldn't be more ubiquitous if they tried - it's just frustrating. It's also short sighted - if you want brand longevity, you don't root it in something that is very clearly of the moment. The reason that MLN's 1997 rebrand was so successful was that it didn't scream 'this was designed in the 1990s'. In 8 years time, Reith will look dated and Gill will be celebrating its 100th birthday.

16 days later

PA
pad
I like the new BBC News article page style and it's good to see it's pretty much been rolled out everywhere now.

Last step is the front page I presume and the 'NEWS' text being Reith'd. I'll look forward to seeing that sometime between 2021-24.
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AS
Asa Admin
I like the fact they've handed over the top of the front page to the count, along with the pertinent "Why do different websites have different tallies?" question which many who see the page may be wondering.
(Since penning this they've now gone and changed it and referenced being in line with CBS)

pad posted:
Last step is the front page I presume and the 'NEWS' text being Reith'd. I'll look forward to seeing that sometime between 2021-24.

I'd assume that page switch will be imminent, maybe once the election has settled - they've recently put up a bit of a tech post about moving BBC News to the cloud. (My brain can't quite get around how running 2000 lambda's a second is a good thing but I'm sure there's sound reasons!)
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8 days later

PA
pad
The BBC News homepage looks different to me this morning but I can't figure out how.
JO
Joe
pad posted:
The BBC News homepage looks different to me this morning but I can't figure out how.

Well, it has different news on it to yesterday.
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AndrewPSSP
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It all looks normal to me..

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On anothe, unrelated, note, the BBC Radio schedule pages seem to have a new favicon. The other sites still have the old one, though, so it may just be an anomaly.
PA
pad
It's back to normal now, but earlier the BBC navbar at the top was wider than the rest of the page (almost full width of my window). It looked odd!
SP
Spencer
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It all looks normal to me..

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On anothe, unrelated, note, the BBC Radio schedule pages seem to have a new favicon. The other sites still have the old one, though, so it may just be an anomaly.


I’ve always thought the BBC’s Favicon looks a bit rubbish. Trying to squeeze the whole BBC logo into such a small square space doesn’t work. It also looks pixelated, probably so the letters are vaguely legible, but that makes it feel a bit amateurish.

Personally, I think just using a single ‘B’ cube from the logo would work much better. I think it’d be much more recognisable and a stronger representation of the brand in this context, even without the other B and C.
CL
clh
The different favicon is where the application (whatever drives /schedules) is telling the browser to use a specific icon (in this case https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/208x208/p01tqv8z.png or a variant at another size). As that icon has a reflection of the blocks beneath it, I'd guess it is certainly not new.

Other BBC sites are not doing this so are just using the default /favicon.ico favicon.

You'll notice sites like iPlayer have a custom icon (a pink i) and Sounds has an orange S. I guess it's up to product teams to choose to add these in though they are certainly better than a tiny set of BBC blocks.
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A former member
Has anyone else noticed an issue where some fonts don't load on the initial page load, but refreshing or resizing the page forces them to? It happens on both Edge and Chrome.

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The circled text should be in medium Reith serif - not Times.
AG
AxG
Yes, just tried on Firefox.
PF
PFML84
Yes that happens for me on Chrome as well.

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