Compliant or not Compliant

I didnt reply to it as it is not my responsibility, and you should have really contacted mike...


I dont profess to be a Web Programmer, only a designer, who applies his design ideas to HTML pages. Unlike you, I dont claim to be a web design professional


Mike has covered this well enough, so I dont need to comment


Most of the Flash documents were published from Flash 5, and I was refering to the Flash Pages at TVmocks...

I sent Mike the flash banners to use on the site...

well it was until some people brought their handbags out.

Don' take this as some evil campaign against your site in particular.

However I've always found yours loads painfully slowly. Do excuse me - I'm going to have a go at cleaning up your homepage to see how much stuff I can get rid of.

The more pointless code you have, the bigger the load on your bandwidth it is. Now with every page having that unecessary code it does add up.

Also Martin, I have never called myself a professional web designer, if I have in conversations to you then it will have been said in a sarcastic manor.

It would also have been polite to forward my comments to Mike or even tell me that at the time. But so far you lied about not getting the message, now your telling me it has nothing to do with you but you didn't tell me this then.

exactly.

UPDATE - So far I've taken out useless drivel (i.e. double spaces, idents, the meta tags that occur 4 times in a row) and changed one section - the headlines bit - from using font tags to CSS.

Original html page - 38k
Current - 30k.

That is a quarter of the page weight gone and I havn't even started.

The repetition of Meta Tags is due to the VIRTUAL INCLUDEs featured within the front page. Around four/five other pages are pulled in - each with their own set of Meta Tags. A little daft, yes - that's FrontPage I suspect. It then looks as if the front page contains about five sets of Meta Tags.

Out of curiosity, I have removed much of the 'faff' from the front page (there was some redundant code in there) and from the pages which are included within it. Not a lot of difference. When loading from scratch, the only obvious delay is on the download of the images; the text appears almost immediately.

I didnt lie FYI, I just ignored the message. I have decided against listening to what you say, because you seem to have some personal vendetta against me. I still offer you advice when you ask for it, even though I do find it cheeky, calling yourself a genius and asking someone you enjoy winding up and dislike for help!

Also Hymagumba, I am still awaiting a response on that PM I sent you. If you could contact me by PM or Email It would be appreciated

Yes the one genius comment was also made in the same sarcastic context as the previous comment.

I have asked you for help in the past, I won't deny that. This was mainly with 3dsmax5, and once or twice with Flash which I overcame the problem myself in the end.

I don't have anything against you, only you seem to claim to be an expert in this and that, not saying that I don't, but I just don't think you should claim to be qualified in Web Design when your clearly not at expert level for which people should Pay. (Past events have also got a say, but I'm not going into that)

I enjoy winding you up, as do other members, because I know what kind of response I'll get and what little bits from the past you will try to use against me when they are nothing more than probably 1 message on MSN.

Interesting thread this, I actually think The TV Room has very good design, and they have made good use of Frontpage, interesting use of <SPAN> tags, I thought a CSS could take care of borders and stuff??

I can tell you, I've been working on a site that has the most awful coding on earth, I can't tell you what I work on, but it definitely meets non complience!

I am currently working on making Harshy Mocks Online into a PHP and CSS driven website, hopefully it will meet complience and improve maintainability at the same time, as well as introduce basic interactive features.

It's a good design I'm not arguing that - it's the code underneath I was worried about.

Well I spent ages doing it but I think I've finished. I gave up fiddling with the little images for the navigation as Mozilla and IE have different ideas of "standards compliant mode" and I just felt it was less hassle with the text.

Also being me and being used to my way of coding changed the Presentation Developments bit to a list and set the bullet as the image via CSS.

http://www.hymagumba.freeserve.co.uk/uploads/the-tv-room.html

Page size down from 38.1 KB to 19.1 KB which is quite considerable. I'm sure there is more I could pull but I can't be bothered (is all that CSS at the top needed? I can't see where it applys to).

Now - you say all the meta junk is to do with VIRTUAL INCLUDES. Surely you can remove the meta data from the included pages? I've never had this problem with my stuff - although it could be one of the evils of frontpage.

I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice your EGO and your attitude to others...


Yea, not a problem with this, but you could be a bit modest when asking for help, especially from people who you enjoy annoying.


I have considered offering my design services for a fee, I refused to before untill I had my qualification which I have now! I have not asked anyone to pay for the design work I have done ever, and I have helped many people in the past 4 years in one way or another. And I didnt say I was a qualified Web Designer, only they my qualification indluded Web Design Units...


Of all of our "arguments" you seem to be the one bringing up past events, not me. I find myself having to explain my position because you mis-interpret what I say and do, without even talking to me.

I must say this thread has brought my back to TV Forum more often than I would of before, thanks Ian!

Actually you did more recently in another thread, I forget what... but it was about Flash and 3dsmax.

I'm sorry, but that design is really bad. It's nowhere near as good as the real thing.

The gaps between all the different sections are much bigger than in the real version.
The menu at the top just looks dreadful
You've lost the lines underneath the TVR+ section & under the main content, so it just looks plain.
The "bringing uk and irish tv presentation to the world" text doesn't look as good either.

I'm sure it's possible to make The TVR look equally as good using CSS, but I'm afraid you've not done a very good job.