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Richard
After 1982 Thames provided a bulletin for LWT on Friday evening but LWT's own news was very limited, just a basic read by the announcer, I think provided by LBC radio. In the late 80's LWT started a proper news service, albeit made by an independent at first


Didn't the fully fledged service evolve into LNN which provided the Carlton/LWT service in 1993?
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Inspector Sands
Didn't the fully fledged service evolve into LNN which provided the Carlton/LWT service in 1993?

Yes, essentially the LWT News operation was incorporated into LNN.
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We have talked about this before I think in the Classic TV thread Razz IBA did step in, during 1980 highlighting a joint news services but both Thames and LWT said there was not enough news to do such a thing,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LWT_News
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Markymark
Thames had the 'Today'
programme 18:00 to 18:30 Mon to Friday, which was more of a magazine format, a bit like
The One Show I suppose, I don't recall any regional news as such on there ?



I think all the various regional news programmes elsewhere were a lot more magaziney. From clips I've seen of programmes like Day By Day the 'news' was a seperate item within the programme, and what there was of course was mostly reads with slides.


I watched Day by Day a lot, it was indeed magaziney, but nowhere near as magaziney as 'Today' Smile

There was indeed a 'block' of news within the show, but that was to allow the South and South East halves of the region to have their own more local stories as opt outs. If something major happened, there was proper hard news coverage in the main body of the programme. I remember particularly incidents at Aldermaston and Burghfield (very local to me) that were handled very well and comprehensively by the programme. BBC South Today was very lacklustre in comparison (how times change !)
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Steve Williams
I think all the various regional news programmes elsewhere were a lot more magaziney. From clips I've seen of programmes like Day By Day the 'news' was a seperate item within the programme, and what there was of course was mostly reads with slides.


And of course in those days there generally was less news about because it was harder to report from around the region - hence why in the old IBA Yearbooks you get regions like Grampian and Channel only doing a fully-fledged regional magazine three nights a week, or taking it off in the summer, because they simply weren't able to get enough material in the days before ENG. Indeed Granada's Scene at 6.30 was so much of a magazine show it even ran on Christmas Day in 1963.

And as we know, even in the nineties Granada would take Granada Tonight off for a fortnight in the summer and just have the news for five minutes.
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Steve in Pudsey
What is surprising is how much the BBC Regions used to contribute to network programming. Not just the network production centres, but Leeds, Plymouth, Norwich, Newcastle all used to have their stuff shown on the network. Some of these were in strands that repeated regional documentaries but it looks like the regions all got regular network commissions too.

The other thing I hadn't appreciated was that Elstree used to produce radio programmes.
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Steve Williams
What is surprising is how much the BBC Regions used to contribute to network programming. Not just the network production centres, but Leeds, Plymouth, Norwich, Newcastle all used to have their stuff shown on the network. Some of these were in strands that repeated regional documentaries but it looks like the regions all got regular network commissions too.


They were a bit more flexible in those days and I don't think it was a specific drive to commision stuff from the regions, with specific quotas, but just that someone in the regions had an idea and they just pitched it to the network. The regions in those days would have a much wider range of production staff because they would have the regular regional shows on BBC1 which could be anything, so you'd get something like Gardeners Direct Line on BBC Leeds getting a big audience and moving lock, stock and barrel to the network. Same with Keith Floyd, David Pritchard at BBC Plymouth spotted him and put him on locally and he stayed with him when he moved to the network, and his desk was at BBC Plymouth.

In many ways these weren't really regional productions but just a quirk of where the production team were based. In one of the BBC Handbooks they talk about how BBC Pebble Mill used to make a regular contribution to Match of the Day but that seems to be entirely because one of their directors John McGonagle used to be based in Pebble Mill and whenever they did a match from the Midlands he'd do it with a Pebble Mill crew. The Handbook reports that he'd now retired so Pebble Mill's contribution to Match of the Day had now ended. Similarly Mike Craig used to be one of the Beeb's radio comedy producers and worked out of Manchester, and when he retired he wasn't replaced and that was the end of radio comedy from Manchester.

I don't suppose it's too different to what we get today because if a TV producer now found the new Keith Floyd in Plymouth they could still make the show from Plymouth, but now as an independent producer. Indeed you could probably see the regions in those days as the equivalent of today's indies.
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Ne1L C
Talking of South East news, moving back to television, it's fascinating to discover how muddled the situation was with regards to the region's early evening news in the late 60s and early 70s, unlike all other regions where it was all nice and simple and there was Midlands Today or Look North five days a week all the way through from the early 60s onwards.


It was just as muddled over on ITV. I can only remember the early 70s onwards, but
neither Thames nor LWT carried any regional news as such. Thames had the 'Today'
programme 18:00 to 18:30 Mon to Friday, which was more of a magazine format, a bit like
The One Show I suppose, I don't recall any regional news as such on there ?

Thames at Six replaced Today in 1977 (probably accelerated by the Sex Pistols incident ?)
so from then weekdays were sorted, but it took the IBA to step in and forced LWT and Thames
to collaborate on a 7 day service from Jan 82.

What happened during the AR/ATV years ?



Not what you're looking for exactly but might be interesting:
http://www.transdiffusion.org/print/schedules-print/
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http://ukchristmastv.weebly.com/ A strange one someone has uploaded the Xmas tv guide from TV times etc.
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London Lite Founding member
http://ukchristmastv.weebly.com/ A strange one someone has uploaded the Xmas tv guide from TV times etc.


A quick look for Xmas 1979 on ITV shows a full 30 minute evening regional bulletin on Christmas Eve. Unthinkable now.
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Not in UTV OR Grampian.
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Hatton Cross
I'll ask this here.
Has anyone actually seen an edit/correction they submitted, updated on to the site yet - or are they going to put all the accepted edits during one mass correction update?

I've submitted upwards of 100 edits over the past couple of weeks - mostly replacing 'unknown' with either 'Presenter', 'Producer' or 'Play Written By' in the Radio 1/4 listings, but they've not appeared and it's been a week or so ago, and untangling programme synopsis, by adding names where 'unknown' once was and introducing paragraphs to make overly long details easier to read.
But so far the changes made haven't made it onto the site.

I don't like the fact that you don't have to submit a e-mail address to make a change either. Would have been nice to have some sort of automatic notification that your edits have been moderated and have now been updated for that entry.

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