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APFS: Afternoon Programmes Follow Shortly Discussion

A tribute to the "king of TV mock websites" that ran until 2006

NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
If there is the time and effort then "hardtape" mocks can be brilliant as this example shows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP3ki5bZ5Dg
JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
I guess it's a bit like how that Inside Number 9 special a few years ago used genuine EMI 2001s (and ran off the footage to 1" video), that look is something you just can't recreate properly. Certainly the second series of Look Around You does look very sharp and clean, not like how something from the early 80s would have looked.
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
In his video on ITV and their adventures in satellite Applemask spoke about how the ident for Carlton World was made in the real world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Bx14o0Z0g

(14:46 to 15.16)
TE
tesandco Founding member Granada North West Today
Some may remember the TV Whirl 9th birthday back in 2010, where I went to the effort of authentically recreating RealMedia files from the early pres site days of the net. But for the purposes of that, even the contemporary source material was all fed back out to longplay VHS tapes in 14:9 letterbox before being captured back in. You just can't recreate those colour issues, tracking and mushed up linear mono audio digitally. All for the sakes of a 192x144 video file that no one could really tell on - https://www.tvwhirl.co.uk/junk/bbc2wales2010b.rm

I wonder if in 10 years time we'll all be here discussing recreating the authentic 'early Youtube' look by pointing a camera at the TV and sticking a big 'MyFreeCapSoftware.com' logo across the middle of it.

One of the little things that does grate slightly with me on mocks mind is the amount of people who go to all the trouble of trying to recreate the blurring, colour issues, manually made slides and card graphics etc so that it looks age authentic. And then still put it in 16:9 Full HD. But that's probably just me!
Last edited by tesandco on 11 August 2020 3:56pm
TV Whirl - Still covering UK idents, presentation, teletext and programmes after 19 years
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Some may remember the TV Whirl 9th birthday back in 2010, where I went to the effort of authentically recreating RealMedia files from the early pres site days of the net. But for the purposes of that, even the contemporary source material was all fed back out to longplay VHS tapes in 14:9 letterbox before being captured back in. You just can't recreate those colour issues, tracking and mushed up linear mono audio digitally. All for the sakes of a 192x144 video file that no one could really tell on - https://www.tvwhirl.co.uk/junk/bbc2wales2010b.rm

I wonder if in 10 years time we'll all be here discussing recreating the authentic 'early Youtube' look by pointing a camera at the TV and sticking a big 'MyFreeCapSoftware.com' logo across the middle of it.


One of the little things that does grate slightly with me on mocks mind is the amount of people who go to all the trouble of trying to recreate the blurring, colour issues, manually made slides and card graphics etc so that it looks age authentic. And then still put it in 16:9 Full HD. But that's probably just me!


It's me as well. We seem to forget in this day of High definition TV that the heyday of TV presentation was in the 60's to early 90's before HD became popular. One of the best features of software such as AE is that we can set the composition to something akin to the resolution of the time.
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
I had a thought about this.

There's a site called Fandom where you can make your own style of wiki's.

Maybe someone could use that to make the next APFS.

There's a major problem with that, and it's why Java TV on Wikifoundry failed. Anyone can edit an article on a wiki. Which means you could create a mocks page with images, and someone else could replace them with their own inferior images, change your text, etc.
BH
BillyH Founding member London London
If there is the time and effort then "hardtape" mocks can be brilliant as this example shows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP3ki5bZ5Dg


That reminds me how it’s very rare for retro-sounding announcers to sound “right” whenever mocks are made - they usually sound overly plummy or posh and essentially like a parody of someone rather than a genuine voice. Microphone quality also affects realism, as you can tell when someone’s speaking into a tinny distorted Windows microphone rather than one that a television channel would use.
Member since 26 May 2001
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
There was a mocker on YT under the names "TV Mocks 2008" or "TV Mocks 2010". Not only were his mocks superb but he had a very natural broadcaster voice.

23 days later

JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
There's been a request on Metropol regarding APFS. I directed them to the reuploaded version of the site linked at the beginning of this thread, but comparing it to the archives on Wayback Machine, that version isn't entirely up to date (says last update was 2004), and some of the things they asked about were from 2005. That means some material is missing. Can anyone help them? https://www.metropol247.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9300
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
It would be interesting to see how a modern APFS could utilise the range of animation and design programs.
IT
IndigoTucker
I have two whole images of the site from back in the day, when I get back home I can check the dates.
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I have two whole images of the site from back in the day, when I get back home I can check the dates.



I'd like to see the APFS Network:
http://www.mcmweb.co.uk/apfs/apfs_network/apfsnetwork.htm

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