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PF
PFML84
I'd rather fresh install W10 and have an installation disc rather than upgrade W8.1. I wonder once the upgrade process begins if creating fresh installation media will be possible.
DA
davidhorman
I've read that you can apparently do something like that with this upgrade process, though I'm not clear on the details.
NG
noggin Founding member
Paddy posted:
I'd rather fresh install W10 and have an installation disc rather than upgrade W8.1. I wonder once the upgrade process begins if creating fresh installation media will be possible.


For Wimboot installs I think that would be the only way - as the installation media IS the install in that case.

44 days later

LL
London Lite Founding member
I figured out why I didn't get the Windows 10 icon, Windows 7 only updated important updates while this one was recommended. 40+ updates later and I've been able to request the new OS.
DA
davidhorman
You can get an ISO here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Though if you're upgrading you may need to use the Media Creation Tool to make an ISO for a fresh install:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/media-creation-tool-install?ocid=ms_wol_win10

It's not entirely clear.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Cheers David, backing up and downloading now.
LL
London Lite Founding member


AS
Asa Admin
So judging by the link above providing I do the update first, it'll be fine to download the ISO if/when I want to clean install - I guess it bases it all off the hardware so as long as I don't change much at the same time, it should still be ok?

Not that it matters at the moment, I see some message about "validating my PC for Windows 10" so reading between the lines it sounds like I've got some drivers that maybe aren't quite compatible yet.
DJ
DJGM

That doesn't actually link to a page where you can directly download the relevant ISO's. The only download that is available on that page is the Media Creation Tool which gives you option of downloading the ESD installer, and converting it to an ISO.


It is actually pointless having two separate download for 64bit and 32bit versions of the Media Creation Tool, since this tool itself offers you the option to choose which system architecture you want to install on. So if your system has 64bit Windows 7/8.1, you might as well just download the 32bit version of the app. It makes no difference.

http://djgm1974.kitamuracomputers.net/images/W10-MediaCreationTool-options-screen.png

I haven't updated any of my PC's to Windows 10 yet, but I've still been able to use that tool to create an ISO.

Thing is, you still have to do an in-place upgrade to Windows 10 before you use the ISO, as the upgrade transfers your Windows licence from 7/8.1 to 10 without the need to enter a product key.
DA
davidhorman
DJGM posted:

That doesn't actually link to a page where you can directly download the relevant ISO's.


Ah, but it does - if your browser declarations are such that the website believes you're not already using Windows 7 or 8.

Try it from XP, or try altering your browser's agent string with the various tools available, and you'll be able to download an ISO.

My guess, though, is that that download is for those who already have a Windows 10 product key, while the media creation tool creates an ISO locked to your hardware.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Bad luck here.

The install was going well, then it was stuck on a black screen for 20 minutes.

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DJ
DJGM

DJGM posted:

That doesn't actually link to a page where you can directly download the relevant ISO's.



Ah, but it does - if your browser declarations are such that the website believes you're not already using Windows 7 or 8.

Try it from XP, or try altering your browser's agent string with the various tools available, and you'll be able to download an ISO.


My browser is SeaMonkey 2.35 on Windows 8.1. I don't see why the website should see my main PC as running anything other than Windows 8.1. Eitherway, I most definitely won't be dropping back to the officially dead Windows XP just for this. Unless of course I fire up my ancient Dell Latitude C610 laptop ... with it's 1.3GHz Pentium III CPU and 512MB RAM!


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35

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