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PC TV Tuners

(January 2014)

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DB
dbl
I use DVBViewer, very flexible program, along with PCTV Systems DVB-T2 290e nanoStick for recording Freeview and Freeview HD.
http://www.dvbviewer.com/en/index.php

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PCTV-Systems-DVB-T2-nanoStick-Tuner/dp/B004C1176E
NG
noggin Founding member
Under Windows, DVB Viewer and TS Reader are both worth looking at. (The latter more for analysis than viewing) DVB Logic tuner virtualisation with Windows Media Center also worth a look

Under Linux, TV Headend, VDR and MythTV all worth a look.

I run a mix of PCTV 290e (DVB-T2 USB2) and TBS 6981 (Dual DVB-S2 PCI-E 1x) and Hauppauge Nova S2 (Single DVB-S2 PCI) tuners.

I use all of the above in various set-ups. Most of my viewing is within Windows Media Center or XBMC.
HA
harshy Founding member
I am thinking of buying a TBS purely for its blindscanning ability, its the one thing missing in my arsenal.
RE
remlap
If you just want to blindscan you can do it cheaper with a Technisat SkyStar 2 eXpress HD PCIe.

I was one of the first to buy a TBS6925 due to the new modulations and modes it supports.
Last edited by remlap on 19 January 2014 11:35pm
HA
harshy Founding member
I have SkyStar 2 USB with DVBDream but I see no blind scanning facility.
RE
remlap
Different tuner and chipset mate. Technisat SkyStar 2 eXpress HD PCIe is much newer.
DJ
DJGM
While we're on the subject, I'd like to find a modern equivalent of this old relic from 1998.

http://djgm1974.kitamuracomputers.net/images/Hauppauge-WinTV-PCI-card-1998--600x335.png

An antique by todays standards, but it served me well until Windows XP SP3 was released!
NW
nwtv2003
DJGM posted:
While we're on the subject, I'd like to find a modern equivalent of this old relic from 1998.

http://djgm1974.kitamuracomputers.net/images/Hauppauge-WinTV-PCI-card-1998--600x335.png

An antique by todays standards, but it served me well until Windows XP SP3 was released!


I bought this gem in 2004, it was ok to watch on, but to capture clips was a bit shocking, serves me right for buying a USB one at the time...

http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/2/8/2/8/4/7/748282_500x500_1.jpg
DJ
DJGM
DJGM posted:

While we're on the subject, I'd like to find a modern equivalent of this old relic from 1998.

http://djgm1974.kitamuracomputers.net/images/Hauppauge-WinTV-PCI-card-1998--600x335.png

An antique by todays standards, but it served me well until Windows XP SP3 was released!


In hindsight, while it won't work on a modern or recent-ish installation of Windows, I could probably stick that antiquated capture card in a spare PC, stick some flavour of Linux (possibly Mint or openSUSE) on it, and it might actually work!


I would prefer something somewhat rather more up to date, either PCI or PCI-E, and that supports capturing in HD.
CW
cwathen Founding member
DJGM posted:
DJGM posted:

While we're on the subject, I'd like to find a modern equivalent of this old relic from 1998.

http://djgm1974.kitamuracomputers.net/images/Hauppauge-WinTV-PCI-card-1998--600x335.png

An antique by todays standards, but it served me well until Windows XP SP3 was released!


In hindsight, while it won't work on a modern or recent-ish installation of Windows, I could probably stick that antiquated capture card in a spare PC, stick some flavour of Linux (possibly Mint or openSUSE) on it, and it might actually work!


I would prefer something somewhat rather more up to date, either PCI or PCI-E, and that supports capturing in HD.

I'm surprised you can't get this to work on modern versions of Windows when you say you've had it running under XP before.


Typically if a piece of hardware has WDM-style drivers (so it will state Windows 98/2000 as minimum requirements) then those ancient drivers will actually still work on 32 builds of modern Windows versions as the support for them is still there. If you at least have Windows NT drivers these will often still work as WDM was based on the NT driver standard NTDM (I've got an old Mustek Parallel port scanner from the mid-90's which will still work perfectly in Windows 7 using NT 3.51 drivers!).

You may need to perform tricks to get it to install, like create a shortcut to the installer on the desktop set to compatibility mode for an older version of Windows to get past OS version checks, or sometimes bypass the installer and manually install the drivers from device manager, or run as administrator. For graphics hardware such as this you may also need to run it with aero disabled, but still I would have thought you could get it to work somehow.

I've only 'lost' hardware in this way when it relied on NT drivers which use NTDM specific quirks which WDM doesn't support, Windows 95 style VXD drivers, or real mode DOS drivers loaded from CONFIG.SYS or similar.
Last edited by cwathen on 29 January 2014 8:13pm - 3 times in total
DJ
DJGM
The question is ... is it really worth all that bother for such an ancient TV capture card? I'd like to find a modern equivalent of that old 1998 relic. I'd like to capture video in HD, and that old thing will never be able to do that.

While I did manage to get some decent captures off it back in the day, pre-HD, it'll never be good enough for capturing stuff like video game footage from my Xbox 360. Most of the video game clips on YouTube are at least 720p.

The best I've seen is the Intensity Pro (PCI-E card) from Blackmagicdesign. It doesn't matter that it doesn't have a TV tuner on it, as I can plug in my Humax HD-FOX T2 Freeview HD box via HDMI for any HDTV captures.
:-(
A former member
Have you considered something like this ... http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/data_hdpvr2-gaming.html

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