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London Lite9,992 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
Pure speculation on my part, but NOW TV and Sky Go share the same infrastructure, which includes sharing the same streams. The same channels in SD on Now TV are the same on Sky Go and the Sky branded channels are identical as well.

This makes me think that when Sky's new IPTV service for those customers who can't get satellite will launch, Sky Go and Now TV will also switch to sharing the same infrastructure, allowing both Go and Now to offer 1080.

In other news, the Sky Cinema Pass is going up £2 to £11.99 in April, which makes the 2 month pre-paid pass even more value for money.
Neil Jones4,875 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
At £11.99 I note Now TV's prices are slowly coming into line with the main Sky packages.

Sky Cinema through Sky is £11 for in contract and Entertainment itself is supposed to be £22 (though there are no end of new and existing customer deals that can knock this down if you sign up for forever and a day Smile) and I wouldn't be surprised if the ultimate end result between Sky and NowTV a few years down the line comes down to the simple fact you can have Cinema on its own on NowTV as opposed to having Entertainment and Cinema with no contract and there's little difference in price.
jake-watson25 posts since 17 Dec 2013
London London
the launch of SkyX is interesting with its offer of entertainment and cinema bundle.

This really goes up again amazon and Netflix who offer both movies and TV shows in the same package (fiction and live tv for €19.99.

makes sense to brand the service sky, with comcasts plan to make the now tv service "free".
Last edited by jake-watson on 6 March 2019 5:39pm - 2 times in total
noggin14,095 posts since 26 Jun 2001
I wonder how closely linked SkyX and the long-awaited Dishless-Sky are - and whether the latter will actually happen post-Comcast?

It looks to me as if SkyX is a new take on NowTV (no ISP tie-in so unicast not multicast?). Be interesting to see how good the quality is.

If it's using DASH adaptive streaming peaking at 1080p50 or 720p50p (like iPlayer, ZDF Mediathek, some of the CMore live streams etc.) then it may be a go-er. If it's 1080p25 or 720p25 then it's not going to be a direct replacement for some of us and will have the same issues that Amazon TV channels has of sub-par motion for sport, entertainment etc. (Strictly at 25p is horrible...)

1080p50 HEVC/h.265 seems to need around 3.5Mbs - peaking at around 8Mbs - for 'emission quality' in Germany on DVB-T2. The 2.5Mbs may be to support be the lowest DASH bitrate it uses I guess (SD/540p?) - but may offer higher quality at higher bitrates.

Will be interesting to see.
DVB Cornwall7,968 posts since 4 Dec 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
Considerable speculation that some Movie feeds are being fed out on some platforms in 'Full' HD now. Not fully convinced myself currently. (My viewing is via the AppleTV Beta at the moment, so I can't confirm on a live commercial stream, I've disconnected my NOW and Roku devices at present)
Neil Jones4,875 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
Considerable speculation that some Movie feeds are being fed out on some platforms in 'Full' HD now. Not fully convinced myself currently. (My viewing is via the AppleTV Beta at the moment, so I can't confirm on a live commercial stream, I've disconnected my NOW and Roku devices at present)


I'd like to hope it's sort of automatic, otherwise those individuals who don't have a decent internet connection for whatever reason (by choice, can't get it or live in the middle of nowhere) won't see much HD if it buffers all the time.

Mind you that being said Netflix suggests you can get away with a 5Mb connection for HD streaming, though presumably that's if only you stream - other people doing other internet type things on the same connection will eat into that.
London Lite9,992 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
Live streams still appear to be 720p/25 or SD at the moment.

However, I've noticed some improvement in some of the VOD content on the Cinema Pass. That may be down to it being 720p/50fps rather than being 1080p.

As I type, I currently have Citizen Khan through the 4K box on VOD and that seems to be 720/50.
noggin14,095 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Considerable speculation that some Movie feeds are being fed out on some platforms in 'Full' HD now. Not fully convinced myself currently. (My viewing is via the AppleTV Beta at the moment, so I can't confirm on a live commercial stream, I've disconnected my NOW and Roku devices at present)


If you can, enable the developer HUD on Apple TV. That will tell you what the Apple TV h.264/h.265 decoder is being fed in resolution, frame rate, bit rate, dynamic range terms etc. You do need a Mac with Xcode installed to do that ISTR - and possibly a free developer account.

It's very useful for seeing what the various OTT apps are being fed from upstream (Amazon Prime Video can often be half the bitrate of Netflix for UHD content...)
noggin14,095 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Live streams still appear to be 720p/25 or SD at the moment.

However, I've noticed some improvement in some of the VOD content on the Cinema Pass. That may be down to it being 720p/50fps rather than being 1080p.

As I type, I currently have Citizen Khan through the 4K box on VOD and that seems to be 720/50.


I thought Citizen Khan was shot 25p? (Wasn't it one of those odd 'studio sitcom but 25p' shows - or am I misremembering? Interesting that Sky have picked that up for VoD too)