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alexhb01221 posts since 7 Dec 2014
Anglia (East) Look East
Anyone know who to view HD Freeview .TS files (recorded onto USB from TV)? I used to be able to view SD .ts files recorded in the same way, but every piece of software I've tried to far doesn't seem to even remotely work with HD .ts files
London Lite8,143 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
The only way I've been able to view .ts files in HD is to record them directly to my PC's hard drive using a USB tuner.

I believe all UK Freeview sets with recording functionality stop you from watching HD recordings on any other device, although it may be worth trying to convert the file using Handbrake.
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thegeek4,167 posts since 1 Jan 2002
London London
I can't remember the last time I found a video file that VLC wouldn't at least attempt to play.

(It even did a bit of some UHD H265 HEVC which was recorded directly off satellite - though only a frame or two, as my CPU wasn't quite up to it.)
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davidhorman1,744 posts since 8 Mar 2005
Channel Channel Islands
I might be wrong about the branding thing. The USB stick I bought a few years ago has "Freeview" on the box (mind you, not the proper logo) but records to unencrypted .ts files. Maybe it's just something TVs tend to do. Some use their own drive formatting so you can't even view the disk contents on a PC.
London Lite8,143 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
I might be wrong about the branding thing. The USB stick I bought a few years ago has "Freeview" on the box (mind you, not the proper logo) but records to unencrypted .ts files. Maybe it's just something TVs tend to do. Some use their own drive formatting so you can't even view the disk contents on a PC.


In any case, I think the encryption is only on the HD channels currently? Yet PC USB tuners don't have the same issue.
noggin12,619 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Any Freeview HD branded device that records to external media will add mandated DTCP (I believe - not sure if other encryption is allowed) encryption to HD recordings, to make sure they can only be played on the device that recorded them. (In fact I believe it has to do the same for internal storage too - so you can't remove the hard drive and play them/copy them)

The Freeview HD broadcasts themselves aren't encrypted (the Freeview HD EPG data is compressed using proprietary Huffman tables though) - but Freeview HD licensed devices must add encryption to recordings.

These two measures were introduced to allow Freeview HD NOT to be encrypted for broadcast (they were deemed - good enough for rights holders)

If you have a non-Freeview HD licensed recorder, or use a PC with a DVB-T2 tuner, this is a non-issue - the recordings are clean, unencrypted, and play in VLC, MPC-HC and most other players. (,TS is the most common recording format - as it is basically the MPEG2 transport stream that is being recorded with PIDs carrying AAC audio, H264 video etc. NB MPEG2 TS doesn't mean the video is MPEG2...)

(I believe the same rules also apply to Freesat HD devices)

http://www.dtcp.com/documents/dtcp/notice-of-dtcp-encoding-rules-for-uk-hd-dtt.pdf
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Markymark4,977 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today


They do. I managed to extract an HD recording file from my Humax Freesat box, and ftp'd it to a friend with an identical box, but the file wouldn't play for him.

20 years ago I could have lent him a VHS tape of the programme he missed. That's progress ! Razz
noggin12,619 posts since 26 Jun 2001


They do. I managed to extract an HD recording file from my Humax Freesat box, and ftp'd it to a friend with an identical box, but the file wouldn't play for him.

20 years ago I could have lent him a VHS tape of the programme he missed. That's progress ! Razz


You could probably still play the recording out over composite to VHS and send it to him - unless they still put Macrovision in...