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BBC One Helicopter ident soundtrack (2008)

Hi guys, wondering if you can help. I’m looking for clean versions of the 2008 soundtrack to the Helicopter ident. Does anyone have the full, mid-length and short/news edit versions (examples underneath) to hand? Cheers!

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BBC London News 2005-2008 Sting Remake

The amount of times you’ve put up a new thread for a mock, had criticism, then you’ve deleted the video is dizzying. I’d be willing to wager you will in all likelihood drop this project too in favour of something else — moral of the story is what Mike W said, please leave the originals up so we can see what you’ve done and the development of it!

At any rate, if you’re attempting the “transmission rings” sequence, that was the 2001-2005 sequence in London (2004-2007/08 for other shows like North West Tonight and Look North) and it’s also quite easy to recreate in Premiere Pro.

BBC One Christmas idents 2020

While it is true the break bumper for The Wheel uses a brief circle theme (not the first time they've done this, remember the Strictly ident in 2017?) the trailers do use the Christmas form-up. The original swirly animations haven't been used since 2016 and they'd wound the use of those down for trailers a year or so prior, instead utilising a "falling O" which still appears every so often.

BBC Newsline In Form of July 2019 Reith Regional News Look

Can only echo what Ittr has said. You’ve changed a template around (which in itself isn’t completely accurate, the wipe to the programme title is too fast and not as fluid as the official sequence) without taking it apart and working with it to create even part of a full sequence.

I’d keep going with this rather than binning and deleting it as per many of your other mocks, but work on other shots in the sequence and, talking from a stylistic point of view and also bearing in mind this may help broaden your horizons in After Effects and give you a challenge: maybe find a way to include the Newsline yellow/amber in the rings along with the BBC News red.

Odd opening titles on Look North

As daft as this tangent might sound, you all have a point. Pennines Today wouldn't suit those on the east coast, and I can't really imagine viewers in King's Lynn are particularly happy receiving a programme for the north, being in Norfolk and on a similar latitude to Norwich, Leicester, Derby/Nottingham and Shrewsbury, places I've never heard anyone refer to as even remotely northern - it sticks out like a sore thumb on the weather map. Its inclusion is the result of them and Hunstanton receiving a stronger signal from Belmont than any Look East transmitter, I believe.

Odd opening titles on Look North

How odd. I don't understand the logic of badging some of the shots with "North Today" (inculding one shot of Leeds) when other shots have the usual town/city names and the endboard still says Look North. My best guess is RDJ's analysis is right and what we've seen might've been an emergency sequence for if Salford and Hull both had to merge with Leeds, and presumably they just didn't have time to remove the shot of Manchester - though why they chose to go for the name North Today is a mystery to me.

Will be interesting to see what they do with the 6:30 news if the Hull edition can't go ahead.

TV Forum: New for (the middle of) 2020

Playing devil's advocate here, one word responses and posts are considered fine on a social media outlet or messenger when you're holding a conversation with someone. I'm guessing by their Bitmoji avatar that the user in question is fairly young and as such not completely boned up on the etiquette of an internet forum, but relying on their more instant experience with Facebook, Snapchat etc which would explain the reasoning behind the lack of content in their posts.

Speaking constructively, I'd suggest posting when you've got something to say that is thought provoking, or you have an opinion that you can elucidate on, rather than posting a few short words - it's a forum, not a group chat - and I'd wager when people log onto this site, they want to read interesting posts and conversations rather than posts with only one or two words. I know I do.

Edit: grammar

BBC EAST MIDLANDS TODAY 2008 title remake

There isn’t much more to say here than you’ve haphazardly placed some images of the East Midlands underneath a pre-existing template. The original titles featured black and white videos of landmarks and people in motion, and in particular, the fourth shot is supposed to spin 180° anti-clockwise along with the rings, whereas on your video it remains still, which looks odd, to say the least.

Learning by dissecting a template isn’t necessarily a bad approach, but slapping some images underneath it does not a mock make.

TV Forum mock

Behind this sentiment 100%, I’m personally really enjoying seeing these designs and having a thread on The Gallery that’s a bit ‘out of the box’ and not another aston rejig! I personally really like Brioalex’s design, maybe a bit cutesy compared to the current design, but clever and stylish nonetheless.

The TV Lounge was/is an odd one. I designed the logo for it around five years ago and was there on and off for a while before it disappeared from public view. It used to focus on nostalgia but rather quickly became a pseudo-TV Forum and limped along with a comparatively tiny user base. Very much a boy’s club compared to this site, great people and the sort you’d have a few pints with, but the admin didn’t seem to care and let it decay. In the end the hosting went balls-up and the forum’s been in development hell ever since.

ITV Rebrand 65th Anniversary

Sometimes, there isn't much more to say than "I don't like it".

As a standalone logo, the ITV logo you've made is perfectly nice - it just isn't suited for ITV. It feels stuffy and unapproachable, especially when you have block capitals sat next to it in Times New Roman and it's sat in a sea of magnolia or teal.

The ITV channels are lively and entertaining - these logos and graphics don't represent that, in my opinion. It makes the channels seem classy and high-brow, sure, but in a BBC Two circa 1986 way.

I do, however, like the use of Avenir, so this may be something you could keep going forward.

ITV Rebrand Concept - 2022

Please don’t apologise. Every designer will try something that doesn’t work, it’s part and parcel of the graphic design process. Nobody is immune, take Martin Lambie-Nairn for instance: the original brief for BBC One’s 1991 rebrand was a big ‘ONE’ with a globe inside the O, for instance. He went back and worked on it further, and ultimately came out with the smokey globe and serif numeral, which stayed on-screen for 6 years.

I also remember seeing some concept art courtesy of Red Bee for BBC One’s 2006 rebrand, and they were all very noughties-flavoured, some resembling the BBC Breakfast titles of the era, and wouldn’t have stood the test of time at all. (I can’t find the link now unfortunately, but it’s certain to be around somewhere).

You tried an idea out, thought it looked good enough to get some feedback and it hasn’t been favourable. But you gave it a go. That’s alright.

For what it’s worth, I agree with Jon in that the ITV lettering is inherently difficult to work with and make look nice. The current logo is absolutely the best iteration thus far, followed (quite distantly) by the 2005/06 logo which, while a bit bland, looked far more visually appealing than its rather ugly “digital” 1998/99 and serifed 1989 counterparts.

BBC 2020 Rebrand Project

I like how much effort you've put into this and the perseverance in making it work. For that I can only applaud you.

The endboards and idents are all fantastic and are an improvement over what we have, and while I think the BBC One 'sphere' could do with some work (I don't think the "spark of energy" form-up works - maybe use the sphere in a similar way to the 2005 BBC Weather glass orb and have some BBC Two-esque soundscapes overlaid?). The thing I can't get over, however, is the main piece of this mock. I really don't like your BBC logo.

If any iteration of this mock worked best, it was the first iteration with a hard-edged box - at least that represents some kind of evolution from the 1997 Lambie-Nairn logo - but the rounded shape of your logo, colour scheme and shadows all remind me of an iPhone app, and, far from being a stronger identity as your thread blurb describes, it's nowhere near as iconic as the existing design.

I think if the BBC were to rebrand, it would be quite subtle and include the three boxes as per the present design, but with Reith instead of Gill Semibold, as per this mock by bilky asko made last year which I personally quite like:



Regarding the BBC News, I don't like the updated graphics and would need to see more of the updated regional titles concept before I could comment.