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"Now, all the latest news from ITN "
If there'd been someone within arms length and in possession of a feather, they could definitely have knocked me over with it.
Things you don't hear or see on TV anymore
Today I heard something you don't normally hear on TV anymore (get ready with the smelling salts!) on ITV at approximately 13.28pm, this..."Now, all the latest news from ITN "
If there'd been someone within arms length and in possession of a feather, they could definitely have knocked me over with it.
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Some thoughts on the state of the Gallery...
Regardless of the fact that you've completely missed out the people who are neither ‘new’ or ‘veteran’ mockers - those who don’t make mocks but comment on the efforts of those who do (never in a snarky, sarcastic, disrespectful and unpleasant manner presumably!) - to label everyone fools and jerks really doesn't help to create a pleasant, welcoming community does it?
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Unless I'm missing something I'm under the impression that ITV has focused on the niche of culturally British people from the C2, D, and E socioeconomic groups in the approximately 18 to 35 age range who are after popular entertainment cut down to the lowest denominator. I have previously stated that the diversity of programmes broadcast by ITV has reduced since the 1990s with the inevitable result of reducing the appeal of ITV across the whole of society. Local programming has also largely vanished resulting in a one size to fit all of England and Wales strategy.
It could be argued that ITV in bygone decades was a generalist channel with something for almost everyone but the modern ITV is a niche channel, albeit a very large niche.
If it's a large niche, it's not a niche. Broadchurch, Downton Abbey, Endeavour, Vera, Marple, Poirot, Joanna Lumley documentaries are not aimed at 18 - 35 year old C2, D and Es. George and Mildred and On The Buses were.
Did the loss of Thames result in a decline of standards?
One addresses the ability of ITV (the network) to analyse its audience and respond by tailoring programmes to that changing audience requirement.
Unless I'm missing something I'm under the impression that ITV has focused on the niche of culturally British people from the C2, D, and E socioeconomic groups in the approximately 18 to 35 age range who are after popular entertainment cut down to the lowest denominator. I have previously stated that the diversity of programmes broadcast by ITV has reduced since the 1990s with the inevitable result of reducing the appeal of ITV across the whole of society. Local programming has also largely vanished resulting in a one size to fit all of England and Wales strategy.
It could be argued that ITV in bygone decades was a generalist channel with something for almost everyone but the modern ITV is a niche channel, albeit a very large niche.
If it's a large niche, it's not a niche. Broadchurch, Downton Abbey, Endeavour, Vera, Marple, Poirot, Joanna Lumley documentaries are not aimed at 18 - 35 year old C2, D and Es. George and Mildred and On The Buses were.
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There's not been many responses to my question about the local programmes produced by Thames for the London ITV region.
That's probably because unless you lived in the region you wouldn't even be aware of any. I moved to London in the late '80s and can recall only '01 for London' and vaguely remember not liking it a great deal and getting my 'going out' information from Time Out.
Are you sure you don't mean "I do not feel I've got the answer I want yet"
Did the loss of Thames result in a decline of standards?
There's not been many responses to my question about the local programmes produced by Thames for the London ITV region.
That's probably because unless you lived in the region you wouldn't even be aware of any. I moved to London in the late '80s and can recall only '01 for London' and vaguely remember not liking it a great deal and getting my 'going out' information from Time Out.
I do not feel that the original question has been properly answered yet.
Are you sure you don't mean "I do not feel I've got the answer I want yet"
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Don't mean to be picky, but there wasn't a World Cup in 1976.
When did ITV start becoming known as ITV?
The first I know of was the "ITV Summer Festival" in the summer season of 1976 which promoted a lot of reruns of "gold" programming, designed to appeal to women during the World Cup season that meant significant disruption to normal schedules. Thereafter each season, a generic "ITV" package was produced, with each of the majors making the packages in turn.
Don't mean to be picky, but there wasn't a World Cup in 1976.
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Who produced that video and was it networked to all regions or were there opt outs?
I think it's been said that it was done by an outside agency - ITV contractors' staff were on strike so it couldn't be done in house. That is why it was just a simple still rather than animated.
I was but a child living in the west country in 1979... but I think it was animated. I can't find anything online anywhere other than the clip posted in this thread but, as well as remembering HTV West newscaster Bruce Hockin at the continuity desk and the distinctive HTV clock (not the Thames with an ITV logo slapped on it) into the 545, I also remember an animated 'Welcome, welcome, welcome home to ITV'. It may not have played out in the first junction but I'm almost completely sure it was used at some point. I can't fully remember how it began (other than it featured a representation of the red light/studio status indicator (?) but I'm fairly sure the 'welcome x 3' bit is on the money.
Have I misremembered? Is anyone old enough to recall an animated version, or am I suffering some sort of breakdown... am I about to go off air for 11 weeks?
When did ITV start becoming known as ITV?
No. Look up the "Welcome Home to ITV" video after the 1979 strike on YouTube. That is the earliest example I know of - there may be others,
Who produced that video and was it networked to all regions or were there opt outs?
I think it's been said that it was done by an outside agency - ITV contractors' staff were on strike so it couldn't be done in house. That is why it was just a simple still rather than animated.
I was but a child living in the west country in 1979... but I think it was animated. I can't find anything online anywhere other than the clip posted in this thread but, as well as remembering HTV West newscaster Bruce Hockin at the continuity desk and the distinctive HTV clock (not the Thames with an ITV logo slapped on it) into the 545, I also remember an animated 'Welcome, welcome, welcome home to ITV'. It may not have played out in the first junction but I'm almost completely sure it was used at some point. I can't fully remember how it began (other than it featured a representation of the red light/studio status indicator (?) but I'm fairly sure the 'welcome x 3' bit is on the money.
Have I misremembered? Is anyone old enough to recall an animated version, or am I suffering some sort of breakdown... am I about to go off air for 11 weeks?
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I thought it was appropriate (and more interesting) to move the hands at a similar speed to that featured in the previous titles for the Ten (also in the current lunchtime and evening titles). Also, as the bulletin doesn't start on-the-dot, it seemed more honest to have the hands at 'around' that time.
Thanks for the heads-up, I'll do both in future
ITV News at Ten ident
Thanks for your comments.
It does add a lot of authority. It would work really well! I must say though I'm not the biggest fan of the hands moving so quick. Maybe the same sweeping shot of the clock but with the hands static on 10? or even 21:59 and moving just as it approaches 10?
I thought it was appropriate (and more interesting) to move the hands at a similar speed to that featured in the previous titles for the Ten (also in the current lunchtime and evening titles). Also, as the bulletin doesn't start on-the-dot, it seemed more honest to have the hands at 'around' that time.
Just want to point something out, I think when uploading the videos it's best o do a public and private version or whatever you have to do that VMPhil suggested as my iPhone and iPad will play the private one but (at least) my nannas computer says "Decode Error" on the private ones
Thanks for the heads-up, I'll do both in future
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There's also this quote from the 1959 Television Annual "...a political situation might arise in which the influence of commercial interests on ITV broadcasting might be a danger to some future Government."
Also an image of a document 'First programme, London station' with the words 'Independent TV' printed on it.
It seems, though it wasn't used on-screen to any great extent once the individual regional companies had been set-up and named, the term was used by the press and public right from the get go, probably influenced by the fact that the body set up to oversee its inception was the Independent Television Authority, so it was thought of as the 'independent' rather than the 'commercial' channel.
When did ITV start becoming known as ITV?
Just had a read of http://www.teletronic.co.uk/itvstory3.htm and found the following from the weekly publication TV Mirror: "How long will I have to wait for ITV? If you live in or around Manchester and Birmingham, the answer is not long. Let's say until the early part of 1956. If you do not live in either of these areas we can only recommend you to patience and BBC TV."There's also this quote from the 1959 Television Annual "...a political situation might arise in which the influence of commercial interests on ITV broadcasting might be a danger to some future Government."
Also an image of a document 'First programme, London station' with the words 'Independent TV' printed on it.
It seems, though it wasn't used on-screen to any great extent once the individual regional companies had been set-up and named, the term was used by the press and public right from the get go, probably influenced by the fact that the body set up to oversee its inception was the Independent Television Authority, so it was thought of as the 'independent' rather than the 'commercial' channel.
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When did ITV start becoming known as ITV?
Welcome Night Thoughts. World of Sport definitely began with 'ITV presents' as you can see here. It also featured the 'ITV Seven' bets to place on horses running at the featured races that afternoon.
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As they weren't operating any heavy machinery, merely entertaining a mid-morning audience with light-hearted, banter based antics I don't see what the problem would be. I don't know what the tabloids had to say about it, because they're owned by a bunch of hypocritical billionaires who think they have a right to tell the rest of us how to behave so I don't go anywhere near them.
ITV Programming Thread
Should Phillip and Holly really have presented This Morning yesterday? They were drunk and still wearing the same clothes as the night before. It's all over today's tabloid newspapers!
As they weren't operating any heavy machinery, merely entertaining a mid-morning audience with light-hearted, banter based antics I don't see what the problem would be. I don't know what the tabloids had to say about it, because they're owned by a bunch of hypocritical billionaires who think they have a right to tell the rest of us how to behave so I don't go anywhere near them.
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I get the pun of 'Party People', but I can't see what's political-sounding about 'Last Orders'?
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I get the pun of 'Party People', but I can't see what's political-sounding about 'Last Orders'?
Didn't it originally come from the Emmerdale Woolpack set, pitched as people talking about politics in the pub?