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Bradby at Ten

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Ha, you ought to find the book about Pavlov's dogs and how it links to human psychology. We aren't that different really.
What? Dogs and humans can be trained using a stimuli/response method to embed behaviour. So therefore, we're the same as dogs and I shouldn't form an opinion of a person but should instead only consider the last point they made because you've decided that makes common sense.

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You're like Jan Moir you are.
LMAO, Oh that's hilarious, the funniest thing I've ever read here, hahahahahahah... what? You're being serious??? Because I agree with her on one single thing? You really don't know much about me do you?

No, not because you agree with her on one single thing. Because you think you're right and everyone else is wrong, unless they agree with you. You're like Jan Moir you are.

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Oh, pull the other one, it's got as bell on it. He summarises his own editorial viewpoint, nothing more. To even think he might be summarising 'popular opinion' is over-pretentious twaddle. Magazine programmes and opinion shows are where popular opinion should be gauged, by use of viewer polls, and other such methods. And even then, it can be easily biased by how the questions are constructed. To think that a news programme not only should but could summarise it, without even performing any polling of the public to find out what they think, is something out of cloud cuckoo land.

BONG and what a whopper it is, a right clanger. I'll wait for OfCom to make the call on whether or not NaT is in contravention of broadcasting law thanks.

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Thanks goodness you've got the Mail for the facts now that News at Ten is so opinionated.
The Daily Fail??? for facts?!?!? LMAO!!!

Oh that's rich! That's like saying that Fox News is fair and balanced. You're so biased yourself with your hatred of the right wing, that you refuse to acknowledge when one of them gets something right for once, rare event as that is. You even go so far as to veer off into fantasyland, and say things that evidence just does not back up. If it was the only newspaper in the world, I still wouldn't buy the Daily Fail. So, come on back to the real world. Fantasyland looks great, but the workmanship on all the false fronts ain't designed to stand up to the rigours of real life.

You ought to look up sarcasm.
London Lite and Cavan gave kudos
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Bring back ITN

Skygeek posted:
pip2 posted:
Skygeek posted:
Looks like a bong (of one kind of another) was certainly deployed there!


Don't know what you you can possibly mean with that comment Confused Smile

All meant in jovial spirit, I can assure you!


And taken very much that way. I was hoping the 'confused' and 'laughing' would equal faux indignation.
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Bradby at Ten

DTV posted:
Don't Ofcom regulations state that broadcast news has to be impartial? If so how does an employee of ITN giving his opinions on news stories fit into that. Surely this is a contravention of broadcasting regulation. I would hate for this be the first step towards American style news programming.


Are you sure you can't be tempted?

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Bring back ITN

Skygeek posted:
Looks like a bong (of one kind of another) was certainly deployed there!


Don't know what you you can possibly mean with that comment Confused Smile
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Bring back ITN

I had a dream.... from 'bong' to 'tom'

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The Crystal Maze

Bail posted:

So I did have another update with some snazzy things to show you, but then when I started the export it crashed, and I didn't save, and I'm sad. So there's a pro-tip for you all, save often, and having a lot of nested per-compositions within After Effects is not always a good idea.


The horror. I'm sorry for your loss. Loving your work as always.
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Bradby at Ten

cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

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Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.


Maybe normally she is, but this time, she's pretty spot on. This is worse than the 1999-2003 era of ITV News. "News at Tom" is pretty accurate.

I think my point was more directed towards 'For what it's worth'. The views of someone lacking humility, humanity, intelligence AREN'T worth anything to me. Agreeing with one thing someone says isn't really reason enough for me to discount the enormous back catalogue of ignorant intolerance. But you go for it.


I'm not discounting their back catalogue, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. You should reward those who do speak truth, even if they've never done it before, with recognition that they have actually spoken accurately, no matter how many other things you may disagree with them on.


It's not truth. It's opinion. It's her point-of-view. So it's OK to walk down the street shouting racist, homophobic, sexist remarks at you as long as I'm also picking up litter and helping old ladies cross the road at the same time? And you'll reward me?


Jeez, talk about gross misrepresentation.

When somebody gets something right, you reward them. When they get something wrong, you criticise them. Is that not common sense???

Oh, and it is fact, by the way. News At Ten is now an opinion show, not a news programme. It shouldn't be calling itself a news bulletin, as it's little more now than Tom Bradby's opinions, and I don't care about his opinions. I care about finding out what made the news today, and I can't get that from News At Ten anymore.



Right = reward / wrong = criticism. No that's not common sense... that's dog training. Us humans prefer to build relationships with each other based on common principals, moralities and patterns of behaviour that chime with our own experiences and relationships. We form bonds with people based on who they are, not what they say and do on a sentence-by-sentence and action-by-action basis.

You're like Jan Moir you are.

News at Ten IS a news programme. It isn't little more than Tom Bradby's opinion because he doesn't actually give his opinion does he? All he does is summarise popular opinion "You may think one thing, you may think another or perhaps you consider this most important. Whatever your stance, what's happened today is likely to result in either this, this or this". That's just acknowledging that as well as just wanting the facts, we're all also discussing it from our own point-of-view on some platform or another.

Thanks goodness you've got the Mail for the facts now that News at Ten is so opinionated.
Last edited by pip2 on 2 November 2015 8:49am
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A Saturday Morning Thread

james-2001 posted:
dvboy posted:
DJGM posted:
Andrew posted:

Wrong thread, this is about kids shows from the past.


Well this is the latest incarnation of The Saturday Show, which after all was for kids in its previous versions.


It's not a different "version" or "incarnation" of anything. It's a completely different programme that happens to have the same name.


In the exact same way the current Good Morning Britain has nothing to do with the TV-am version, even though some people seem to act like it does.


No, not the exact same way to be fair. Hardly just sharing a name. Whilst today's GMB is not produced by TV-am it is a carbon-copy breakfast news/magazine format, broadcast in the same time slot on the same channel and almost the same running order give or take a regional bulletin and a Mad Lizzie here and there.
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Bradby at Ten

cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.


Maybe normally she is, but this time, she's pretty spot on. This is worse than the 1999-2003 era of ITV News. "News at Tom" is pretty accurate.

I think my point was more directed towards 'For what it's worth'. The views of someone lacking humility, humanity, intelligence AREN'T worth anything to me. Agreeing with one thing someone says isn't really reason enough for me to discount the enormous back catalogue of ignorant intolerance. But you go for it.


I'm not discounting their back catalogue, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. You should reward those who do speak truth, even if they've never done it before, with recognition that they have actually spoken accurately, no matter how many other things you may disagree with them on.


It's not truth. It's opinion. It's her point-of-view. So it's OK to walk down the street shouting racist, homophobic, sexist remarks at you as long as I'm also picking up litter and helping old ladies cross the road at the same time? And you'll reward me?
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Bradby at Ten

cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.


Maybe normally she is, but this time, she's pretty spot on. This is worse than the 1999-2003 era of ITV News. "News at Tom" is pretty accurate.

I think my point was more directed towards 'For what it's worth'. The views of someone lacking humility, humanity, intelligence AREN'T worth anything to me. Agreeing with one thing someone says isn't really reason enough for me to discount the enormous back catalogue of ignorant intolerance. But you go for it.
Last edited by pip2 on 1 November 2015 7:25pm
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Bradby at Ten

sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.
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A Saturday Morning Thread

HarryBNF posted:
Matt & Gaby are being way too touchy feely for this time of the morning...
Coincidently they are now asking each other where they can and can't touch each other...


Matt & Gabby are sitting really near to Nina Wahdia, Mark Dolan and Ashley Walters... Coincidently those people have now been revealed as the guests on this morning's programme.
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