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The Sport Thread

It's a shame how the BBC used to have rights to a plethora of quality shows from overseas (e.g Family Guy, Tom & Jerry etc.)


Well the BBC Three acquired shows (Family Guy and American Dad) were ditched when BBC Three was axed - sorry, moved online with a massively reduced budget.
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BBC News: Presenters & Rotas

Former 5 News presenter Simon Pusey on WNT this evening. Is he still with Arise News or went the freelance route?


I don't think Arise have any staff do they? (They outsourced their news production in the UK to two different Indies back in the day. The tech crew were employed separately and Arise left a large number of freelance crew with massive unpaid invoices, some so bad that they had to remortgage I believe)
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1996 & 2000 Olympics

I spoke to someone who worked on the BBC's Sydney coverage. Apparently the Olympic rings in the virtual background were rendered in the wrong order, and it was only spotted the day before the games started. His flight home was cancelled until he came up with a fix! He also told me that they got a lot of comments from people who assumed the studio was in the UK, rather than the IBC - I think the backdrop did include some beauty shots, but they may not have been live.


I imagine the actual backdrops would be recorded but imagine the virtual camera pan must have been generated live/recorded shortly before each opening as it featured the presenters on the sofa in their outfits of that day.


ISTR that the views were live - and generated from cameras in a Sydney apartment hired for the purpose. It wasn't feasible to run a studio there, but it was possible to rig 'view cams'. I may be wrong, and the cameras may have been recorded, but there was definitely a write-up (probably in Ariel) at the time covering it.
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1996 & 2000 Olympics

The 2002 Manchester Commonwealth Games provide probably the nearest insight we could get - though a much lower key event.

They played a key role in us securing the 2012 gig I think. Manchester 2002 was widely seen as a very good model of wider community involvement in hosting events, and definitely inspired future elements in the UK like the London Gamesmakers.
Rory, UKnews and Brekkie gave kudos
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Brexit Dramarama

It appears to be produced by Eurovision itself, hosted by presenters from WDR, France Télévisions and Finland's Yle.

https://www.eurovision.net/events/sports/politics/44527


Busy day for the EBU. Wednesday 15th May is the jury dress rehearsal for the second Semi Final of the Eurovision Song Contest.
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Channel 4 pre-1993 regional opt outs

ttt posted:
It wasn't a wipe as such - those two splodges remained on-screen throughout the time the clock was there and moved in a 'wibbly' action, waving from left to right like the kind of animation you get before a dream sequence. They only used it for the ads but it was always there - the caption said "ITV CLOCKS" during Night Time programmes and "C4 CLOCKS" on C4.


That's still a wipe effect. If you leave a wipe with some edge modulation at a fixed position in its transition you end up with a wobbly edged, but otherwise static, effect. Effectively you just leave the T-bar fader mid-way through the transition...

(On some mixers you can also use a keyer to do something similar as a "pre-set pattern" key, where the wipe generator is used to generate the key signal)
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What capture devices are you using?

I'm currently using the TBS5520SE USB card, it's not the cheapest available but it supports all the terrestrial, cable and satellite standards. If you're in to the satellite side of things it also supports more advanced features such as PLS and multistream when used with compatible software.


Interestingly the Digibit R1 SAT>IP tuner I've been using for a while (which has 4 x DVB-S/S2 tuners in it and 4 x LNB inputs - but they are matrixed to the tuners to allow for additional flexibility) has PLS support too if you run the third party axe minisatip firmware. Takes a little bit of fiddling through the source code (I looked in the minisatip and TV Headend sources) to work out what the PLS SAT>IP parameters are for the PLS stuff - but it works surprisingly effectively for the French and Italian stuff on 5W.
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Maximum temperature of an hdmi tv stick?

My Roku UHD Streaming Stick+ ran VERY hot when streaming iPlayer UHD HDR stuff during the World Cup and Wimbledon and started randomly reporting HDCP errors. (I enabled the diagnostic menus and the temperature readings shot through the roof)

I know others experienced the same thing - and a number of heat sink mods (large bulldog clip and lump of metal seems to work) have been used to reduce the temperature to stop this.
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Channel 4 pre-1993 regional opt outs

ttt posted:
Si-Co posted:
Does anyone know what this VT clock was? It was used by Tyne Tees when inserting commercials into Channel 4. Is it merely a countdown clock burnt onto the VT at the start of each ad break, or did it serve another purpose?

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YTV used a more standard clock like this at the start of their VTs of commercial breaks - this one clearly states the date and the specific ad-break it was intended for:

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Those images appear to be faulty, but I think I know the TT one you mean.

For whatever reason TT did not use 'fully-formed' VT clocks internally. They either continued to use the old-style ones on a blackboard/chalk, or for promos and the like used a recording of an unfilled VT clock with information superimposed with a caption. This must have been due to a shortage of the devices used to generate the clocks 'properly'.

I guess the 'wibbly' red effect they used for the adbreak clocks was some sort of device used to make it more obvious to the gallery that ads were running? I can see no other purpose for that really.


Looks to me like TT didn't have many Courtyard clock generators or similar and instead used recorded blank clocks. The wipe on the first one may have been because the ident text was generated by a system without a key signal, or the editor decided to wipe it in rather than key it in.
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TV Breakdown Appreciation Thread

ttt posted:
ttt posted:

There was a fader involved though as the cut to/from the commercial break was always done via a down-and-up, rather than the simple cut that most other regions employed.

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You don’t need a physical fader to generate fades ! In fact probably 90% of fades etc you see on TV are not manually controlled via a physical fader


I accept that I had my terminology all wrong earlier; I thought a fader could refer to both the physical fader itself, and to the technology sitting behind it.

Still, it has led to an interesting side-conversation about mixing equipment, which I'm finding fascinating. That GVG 300 in particular is a stunningly-impressive piece of kit for the late 1970s, from the trade video on Youtube. That must have been state of the art at the time right?


State of the art and reassuringly expensive. The lower-spec GVG1600/1650 was a workhorse in many studios and OB trucks.

CDL mixers were also quite popular at the time. The BBC had a huge one in their large CMCCR OB truck (which itself had no cameras - it was used for combining the outputs from other trucks on major events) and BBC News was based around CDLs too. One nice feature of the CDL was that it had built in synchronisers/DVEs allowing you to cope with non-sync sources, 'freeze' a VT before it ran out, and do shunts, slides, pushes etc. at the ME level (without having to use an out-board DVE) (I believe that was also an option on the GVG300 at one point)
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TV Breakdown Appreciation Thread

The desk I use (GVG Kayak DD2) also has Blk-PST and bloody useful it is too. Used more than you might think, for example after the recent DEC Appeal, the opt ident was immediately afterwards, and after the Ten ended on a montage of Notre Dame the other night.


I guess now analogue is switched off digital can do something other than a cut! (In the days of analogue + digital opting - digital was tally-slaved with a delay to match the MPEG2 codec delay on the digital network wasn't it?)
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Victoria Derbyshire which is on the NC only this week and out of Studio B was from a room in the old wing of BH which used to be the waiting room for audiences using the radio theatre.


Technically it's a section of the Media Cafe, which is often used by waiting audiences, that can be partitioned off. It's used for internal meetings, presentations and public hospitality too.