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Eurovision 2021 - Netherlands - NPO/AVROTROS/NOS

Markymark posted:
BM11 posted:
mici0123 posted:
I'd bet my money on the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam. It's the biggest venue I can think of where they don't have to temporarily relocate a current tennant.

I get the impression the desire to spread tourism throughout the Netherlands will rule out Amsterdam.


Although, Amsterdam is the city that would easily and effortlessly embrace the culture of Eurovision


To be fair, I think a lot of Dutch cities would be able to do that though.
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BT Sport - Launch of BT Sport Ultimate

harshy posted:

Positives HDR to SDR Conversion for HD has done well no over saturation.


AIUI BT Sport are doing separate HDR coverage for their HDR10 HD stream (aimed at phones and tablets with HDR10 displays). They are also separately doing a 360/VR thing.

AIUI the host broadcast feed is UHD SDR and that is what BT Sport are using for their main SD, HD and UHD linear outlets?
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Al Jazeera English | Refresh 2020

Not sure if this is the right thread, and apologies if posted elsewhere, but AJE have launched in SD on Freeview. They have started simulcasting in SD on DVB-T COM 6.

There is an MHEG5 (I think) overlay pointing to this - so I guess they are switching off their HD service on Freeview HD?
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BBC News: Presenters & Rotas

Steve in Pudsey posted:
I don't think the argument is that NC presenters aren't senior enough, it's that a different team produces the bulletins and the presenter is part of that team, (re)writes the script etc. They can't do that if they are on the air on the News Channel.


Yes - it's important not to merge two issues here :

1. Is a different/second presenter required to present the longer BBC One bulletins (to allow for pre-transmission prep work)?
2. Should that different/second presenter be a 'BBC One' face or can they be a 'BBC News Channel' face?
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The TV Question Amnesty Thread

IndigoTucker posted:
Channel 4 HD on SkyHD around 8/9 years ago had an issue where it would put highly saturated colours with movement into Progressive, leaving the rest of the image interlaced. The ECP would also cause credits to flip over to progressive. Very odd but was eventually fixed after some complaints.


Yes. There is an issue in ffmpeg that can do this when processing 4:2:2 interlaced content. If you don't insert an interlaced scale filter (even if you aren't scaling anything) you get chroma treated progressively, which makes highly saturated content appear 25 frame progressive rather than 25 frame interlaced. I've often wondered if they are related (i.e. if the ingest path to C4 Playout included an ffmpeg codec conversion)
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BT Sport - Launch of BT Sport Ultimate

thegeek posted:
This came up last year too - YouTube's live encoding specifies 30 or 60fps - so they're feeding it a 2160p50 feed (ie the 4K channel) and something somewhere is doing some frame rate conversion.
Which is frustrating.

How's it looking in the TV app?


I suspect the only way of ensuring decent quality if that's the case is to provide the YouTube encoders with a 2160p60 feed properly frame rate converted upstream of YouTube. However I suspect UHD Alchemist PhCs are not abundant?
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Britbox UK - UK SVoD Platform.

DVB Cornwall posted:
There's a demand for technical quality, that's what I hope Britbox will provide with video on a par with iTunes purchases and offering 4KUHD content too. That'll outdo iPlayer and ITVHub. That'll bring cash in.


I hope it's better than iTunes quality in the frame rate department. I've not seen any native iTunes Store content that has been >30Hz image rate?

iPlayer goes to 2160p50 HDR, and offers 720p50 for SDR HD content... iTunes stuff seems to be limited to 2160p24? (Maybe 30).
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The Andrew Marr show

MDQ1 posted:
Is the programme now permanently presented on the other side of the studio? I think it looks better except from the rather crammed sofa for the paper review


No - the 'other' end of the studio was still in 'Election' mode for the European elections I think.
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Eurovision 2019

digipal posted:

- Why such a long gap between last vote and first jury result? The juries have all voted the night before anyway. It seems to be getting longer and longer. Last year in Lisbon I was standing in the arena, couldn't hack it any longer and got a taxi back to my hotel and was in bed with a glass of wine watching it on tv before the voting started


That's the only junction they can put the final (and longest) ~8 minute commercial break in the latter part of the show. You can't put a break within the phone vote window, nor can you put an 8'00" break in the jury spokesperson slot. They are kind of stuffed. The only real solution is to reduce the length of the phone voting window, which seems to have got longer in recent years?
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STV News - picture quality

London Lite posted:
noggin posted:
elmarko posted:
When’s that getting fixed? Christ.

How big is the ITV Channel Islands audience? ITV is a commercial operation... HD simulcast chains are not zero cost...


Going by population, the Islands have a total population of just over 164,500. (Confirmed by ITV's sales website).

Compare that to another rural region, ITV Border which has a HD variant on Sky and Freesat has a total population of 426k.

However, considering the small population, ITV Channel TV market leads across the Islands, so there isn't an issue with regards to getting bums on seats or advertisers to justify not having a HD service. But as per usual, the Islands were the last to get colour tv and the last ITV region to get HD if at all. (BBC services are in HD)

There's also the issue that Freeview viewers don't get every single sub-opt in HD or even the right region, for example, Anglia viewers receive the East opt of ITV Meridian on ITV HD, while East Midlands viewers receive the West opt of ITV News Central compared to satellite viewers who at least get the right region, even if it's the wrong sub-opt. (This doesn't affect the West Country franchise which have splits for the West and South West opts)


BBC One regional services are still SD in the Channel Islands though, just like ITV, aren't they? (The BBC can make BBC One England HD available as they have no advertising issues, unlike ITV)
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STV News - picture quality

elmarko posted:
When’s that getting fixed? Christ.

How big is the ITV Channel Islands audience? ITV is a commercial operation... HD simulcast chains are not zero cost...
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BT Sport - Launch of BT Sport Ultimate

Brekkie posted:
If only TV's had a brightness control.


HDR isn't about brighter pictures - it's about more detail in the brighter and darker bits of your picture, no more bleached out bright bits, no more crushed dark bits. If your display is properly set-up the brightness of the picture should be the same. (Though lots of people with HDR displays just push their SDR pictures into the HDR range to make them retina-burningly-bright, but still SDR clipped)

Arguably 1080p50 HDR is a much bigger improvement than 2160p50 SDR. Better pixels are better than more pixels IMO.
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