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The Andrew Marr show

Steve Williams posted:

There was also another ill-advised venture on Saturday mornings in the summer of 2004 called In The Know which was simulcast on BBC1 and News 24 and was a live sports magazine with John Inverdale and Louise Minchin, mixed with the usual News 24 hour, which was a bit of a disaster - https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/2004-06-12#at-9.30


In The Know came from TC7 on a modified Newsnight set, but not modified enough that you couldn't still read the etched Newsnight in the backings...
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BBC Two 2018 Revamp

Steve in Pudsey posted:
And a set that looks surprisingly similar to what got installed in Millbank a number of years later. (I think one of the regions got the actual Liquid News set - I want to say Bristol)


Yep - that's a common misconception about the Liquid News set and Bristol. They actually got the old BBC Three News set instead. (It had smaller holes for cheaper plasmas - they got the set, but not the screens ISTR)

As for the Millbank set. Thereby hangs a tale...
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

bkman1990 posted:
AppleTV+ will support 4K HDR playback with HDR10 and Dolby Vision & Dolby Atmos sound.


So same as Amazon Prime and Netflix then. Anything less than HDR10 and/or Dolby Vision, and anything less than Dolby Atmos sound, would leave Apple TV+ as 'second rate' in comparison.
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The Andrew Marr show

Cusack posted:
I watched a couple of Sundays ago and they did the Paper review on the News Channel simulcast and then when Andrew Marr started they did spent another 15 minutes reviewing the papers again. Doesn't make sense.
Move Marr back to 9am and leave it there all the time.


My guess is that the move of Marr to 1000-1100 is a way of stretching the ratings, and helping with the BBC One Sunday morning channel budget. From memory the News 24 0900-1000 hour gets pretty decent figures, and Marr has carried its audience forward an hour, so they now have a better share across Sunday morning. It also leaves the channel with an hour less of general programmes (which will probably rate lower) to commission and pay for too...
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BBC Sounds

Asa posted:
Ouch. Just listened to a bulletin for the first time in a while. Yeah, that’s really not good. I think Newsbeat works better than that, it comes across quite patronising. Fair enough if you want a separate yoof app but not at the expense of those who want R2/5live style bulletins. Wonder which department is producing it? I’ve made Sky my default now.


If you are talking about 'BBC Minute' it's a World Service team producing it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03q8kd9

I think it may be the default because it's updated frequently and therefore is usually 'the most recent' BBC News bulletin?
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Liquid News - 2019 Rebrand

I think you need to take the brand a lot further away from BBC News. Whilst Liquid News was made by a BBC News production team, it wasn't really branded as BBC News, and its graphic look wasn't really related to the wider BBC News look at the time. There was a short cut-down show that aired on News 24 each week, but that was about as close to 'News' as it got.

I suspect the 'Liquid' of its title would still be visually represented somehow visually.

BBC Three News (aka The News Show / Seven O'Clock News on BBC Three / 60 Seconds) was then a separate News brand of its own, and also not tied into the whole Gill Sans BBC News look at the time. If it were still around I suspect it would be closer to Newsbeat branding than BBC News Channel / BBC One/Six/Ten branding.
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Al Jazeera English | Refresh 2020

London Lite posted:
I liked the French DSO. It enabled the main PSBs to go HD only, with the majority of the commercial channels also chose to broadcast in 1080i. Those are in SD are largely news channels. Franceinfo and LCI are SD only. (Those channels are FHD on other platforms).


Yep - French DSO stayed with DVB-T though, so effectively wasted 12Mbs per mux compared with switching to DVB-T2.

It's a pity we can't do what Germany has done and jump to HEVC 1080p50 DVB-T2 (which is both efficient and high quality) for HD, and 540p (avoiding interlace) for SD (which is almost always a 1080p->540p conversion)
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BT Sport - Launch of BT Sport Ultimate

UKnews posted:
Must be a record - I think last years final hit about 2.8m, and Sky’s biggest games get in the mid to high 2m. Obviously making the channel free to view on some platforms will have helped but that is a huge audience for any channel outside of the old ‘terrestrial’ networks whether pay, FTV or FTA. That’s before you allow for the YouTube and BT Sport app streams.


I think Virgin Media may have been the only broadcast platform that had the match outside of the normal BT paywall - or am I misunderstanding some colleagues posts on social mediat? I don't think it was available FTV or FTA on Sky (don't know about BT's platform)
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BBC Sounds

I've had Amazon Echo Dot v1s since they launched and the BBC World Service 'BBC Minute' has been the default BBC News audio bulletin as my Flash Briefing since I first got them. It's a radio version of BBC Three's 60 Seconds in many ways.
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Al Jazeera English | Refresh 2020

Markymark posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
Well Com 6 would give them a bigger audience than the HD mux they are on now.

I don't know why they gave up their SD slot in the first place


Muxes COM 7 and 8 only have up to about three years left, before they close. In fact they have closed in parts of Devon and Cornwall in the last couple of months already. Considering they were launched to drive take up of T2 receivers, so we could move faster to a DSO-2 they've been a miserable failure


In what way Mark? Has take-up of T2 receivers been terrible since then? They've allowed BBC Four HD and BBC News HD to broadcast in HD to a reasonable number of people who would otherwise get SD versions of those services only.

I'd expect there are more Freeview HD than Freesat HD equipped homes out there now? (Freesat has a very low take-up - not helped by C4 pulling C4HD from the platform)

We are going to have to look at T2 switchover ASAP - but B**xit is no doubt taking a lot of time from other matters...

It would make sense - on paper - to keep PSB1 and PSB2 DVB-T but shift COM4,5 and 6 to DVB-T2 to create some more capacity. However commercially that may kill Arqiva/SDN's business models - but I can't see PSB1 switching to T2 before the COM muxes?
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BT Sport - Launch of BT Sport Ultimate

harshy posted:
Did they do what Sky Italia been doing and adding an HDR effect to an SDR master feed?


No - their main linear UHD feed was SDR and originated in SDR by the host broadcaster. This was also downconverted to HD and SD I believe.

Separately BT Sport provided their own HDR (HD not UHD I believe) coverage for mobile devices in HDR10. (I'm guessing the truck ran SLog3 and was converted to HDR10 downstream?)
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Britbox UK - UK SVoD Platform.

james-2001 posted:
Very few streaming services seem to offer 50/60p streaming, even the big "premium" ones like Netflix and Prime, it's one of the things that really annoys me about them, especially when they're offering content like sport.


Netflix have the capability - their own test stuff is streamed at 60p. (Search for their test short 'Sparks')

I've not seen anything - yet - on Amazon Prime video that suggests they have a 50p or 60p workflow. I can't imagine they aren't considering it seriously now that they have so much sport.

Eurosport not running at 50Hz is incredibly disappointing though. It's almost as if they want streaming to be 'second class' compared to linear... (Like Sky presumably, for NowTV)