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BBC Scotland - the launch

Inspector Sands posted:
I didn't think ratings were given or even possible for programmes that short


No - I didn't either. I thought that shows that short were rolled into the next show and given as a joint figure?
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

Markymark posted:


I’ll add into this mix that the ITA mulled over the idea of allocating the Dover transmitter to Anglia, rather than Southern 😎


Well that would have created a strip all the way down the East I guess - and East Kent has quite a lot in common with Essex (parts of which are in Anglia's patch...) Though not sure someone in Deal is that interested in Kings Lynn...
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How strange (odd choices in news programmes)

Rkolsen posted:
Thank you. I was confused when you were saying this and press releases said that.


I've spoken to some people who know - and NRK did roll out Mosart to their regions as per the press release. They have since replaced it entirely with their own open source solution, developed by Superfly, which is called Sofie.

I guess Mosart has some hefty annual support costs - or wasn't doing what they wanted it to.
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

Lou Scannon posted:

Maybe Look 'ULL would be better scaled back to about the same level of sub-opt as Look East (Cambridge), now that sufficient "saving face" years have passed?


Though Cambridge is now a full 30 minute opt at 1830 so there isn't a sub-opt at 1830 or 2225 (not sure if they are pan-regional at lunch time still)? Do you mean sharing Breakfast bulletins and non-News opts with Leeds?
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Will BBC World News become available in UK?

Gallunach posted:
noggin posted:
Gallunach posted:

Could they not let it go out on Astra but not on Sky EPG or Freesat EPG


What would be the commercial reason for the BBC to pay the large amount of money to put it on Astra 28.2 - which is a slot used almost exclusively for services aimed at UK and Ireland - if the channel were not broadcast in the UK (and thus there was no advertising revenue generated by this slot)?


To make it easy to pick it up in the Republic of Ireland Wink
Though there is historic precedent for the difficulty in picking up the WS as it was always easier to pick up the BBC domestic services than World Service Radio ( like 648khz )


Not sure the Republic is a big enough market to return enough advertising revenue to justify carriage on an expensive Astra 2 transponder...
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ITV UHD

Markymark posted:
VMPhil posted:
Markymark posted:

It kind of feels to me that the market for HDR, is the same as that for 5.1 audio. In fact I often wonder when I'm sat watching something with 5.1, if I'm the only person.

Someone told me Sky are able to tell exactly how many people are using Dolby Atmos, because the Sky Q box flags it back to them. On one event it was just 18 people

I think the difference there is surround sound audio is a bit of a faff that people can't be bothered with, as it requires ideally an AV receiver with multiple speakers in the right places and you have to sit in the 'sweet spot' to get the most of the effect. HDR is just a new display technology like HD and UHD were and you can readily see the difference.


Yes, good point, though for an effective HDR picture you need a screen that can produce both a very bright image, and an inky black one. Most of the 'affordable' models can't, and you need to be spending a four figure amount, which does turn it into more of a niche market. That said, many will just turn up the brightness on their 500 quid screen, and go 'look, HDR', just as 20 years ago many took a 4:3 image and stretched it, saying, 'look, Widescreen'.


To be honest the benefit of 'inky black' pictures may be slightly overplayed in a domestic environment. Yes it's nice to have more detail in the darker areas of the pictures, but the real USP of HDR is that fewer highlights get clipped and instead carry on getting brighter, giving you detail where previously you'd just have a rolled off clip. Speculars and skies look so much better, even if you don't have perfect inky blacks at the low end. Yes - having darker blacks does make a difference - but I'm not sure that's specific to HDR as it benefits SDR too if you have a display capable of that. (Either using FALD LCD or OLED)

To be honest the 'inky black' thing is more an issue for OLED than FALD LCD as OLEDs don't go that bright, so to get the contrast range required for HDR they have to have better black level performance.

It's interesting that grading is now being done on high-end LCDs as much as OLEDs. (EIZO have a very good LCD display that outperforms the Sony X300 OLED AIUI)
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Shows that people forget or get lost in time

robertclark125 posted:
Televox seems to be a development of the Prestel system, but was ahead of its time. Nowadays, I'm sure voice command would be the norm, but was a technological marvel back in 1990.


It's a bit of a leap to suggest it's a development of Prestel. Prestel used a 1:1 link over your phone line and could be used for stuff like e-mail. It had a 1200 baud download speed, but only a 75 baud upload speed (slower than most people type) AIUI the 75 baud upload was originally not going to be used and instead DTMF 'touch tones' would have been used hence the 0-9*# menu structure - but when it was clear that text needed to be uploaded too a low bandwidth reverse data channel was added.

Televox etc. just allocated a specific teletext sub-page to the user and allowed remote control of what was seen on that page. It was far more restrictive - and only used the phone call for control, not to carry data. I guess you could say it was capable of some of the similar things - but it's not really a development of Prestel.

Prestel and the other UK videotext systems were definitely ahead of their time. Booking holidays and home banking 'online' in the early-to-mid 80s is something people forget we had the ability to do Smile
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Jeremy Kyle Axed

Steve Williams posted:
JKDerry posted:
Jeremy Kyle Show was filmed in Studio HQ4 at Dock10 Studios in Salford. It is not sitting by idle, as Countdown and Judge Rinder use the studio too.


As mentioned, it is sitting idle at the times they would have otherwise filmed The Jeremy Kyle Show.


Is it sitting Idle because ITV are still paying for the Dock 10 studio space as part of a deal, or because Dock10 haven't found other shows to go into it? Or are people just assuming that it's sitting idle on days it would have expected to do Kyle?
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Brexitcast - The TV Show

all_night posted:
It's already shown on BBC News Channel on weekends isn't it? I'm sure I seen it on a Saturday afternoon few weeks ago.


I wonder if this will be a live show from Millbank (with as many of them as possible in the studio or in contribution studios) of them making the podcast live - or a PSC shoot/edit of the weekly edited podcast as now shown on the News Channel - or something in between?
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TV Licence Fee Decision

BM11 posted:




Yes - though that question was purely around the concept of them receiving free licences, not the BBC adopting funding for the free licences, rather than Government (which has funded them up until now) and thus closing BBC Two, BBC Four, CBBC, CBeebies, BBC Scotland and a whole bunch other services to pay for them.

The response to that question could well have been very different.
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HD remastering 4:3 programmes

james-2001 posted:
I guess using video on location was not the easiest back in the 60s and 70s, needing an OB unit and several big cameras! Would have had to wait until the 80s for more portable cameras and presumably the ability to shoot single camera and edit more easily.


Lightweight cameras really were the key enabler for OB-style location video drama, and allied to that portable 1" VTRs also had a role in some instances.

The BBC shot quite a lot of video drama on lightweight Fernseh, Ikegami HL79s and Sony BVP330 cameras in the late 70s and 80s. There were occasional Doctor Who video location shoots when most location stuff was still 16mm film, and a significant amount of costume drama (Barchester, To Serve Them All My Days, Mansfield Park etc.) had location video (though in some cases film was also still used for some location stuff)

A lot of location drama was shot 2 or 3 camera and cut as-live with just the single mixer cut being recorded to 2" or 1" VT (I think 1" really revolutionised this way of working) There were 'single camera units' (SCUs in BBC-speak) which used a single camera cabled back to a small OB truck with vision control, some basic sound equipment and a 1" VTR housed within, along with talkback. This style of working was particularly popular with Children's BBC productions. Camcorders were still not really available in any quality until the late 80s - and even Betacam SP wasn't really ever favoured for mainstream drama. (DigiBeta in the mid-90s brought the advent of location camcorder 'single camera' working to mainstream drama).
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Launching an OTT Sports Service

You will have a couple of hurdles to get across :

1. Content creation / acquisition. Are the Rugby matches you will be distributing covered already or do you need to cover them? What budget have you set aside for this? Will this be a single camera following the action or will you be attempting multicamera coverage? Do you want to create additional value-added content (pre-match, post-match stuff, additional content that isn't coverage that is about the wider club(s) etc.)?

2. Subscriber management - how will you manage subscribers, their subscription payments, content protection etc. This will need to be GPDR compliant.?

3. Content Delivery - how will you actually make the OTT video streams available. Will you have your own CDN or partner with one of the bigger players like Akamai etc.?