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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

DVB Cornwall posted:
Brian Cox's The Planets on iTunes has what seems to be a first for BBC Earth a series of short five minute 'Minisodes' covering single topics from within the series. Each of these includes embedded text version of the narration. Presumably these are for educational use and are very good. I'm wondering whether they'll appear as network fillers in due course.


I guess that depends whether they were commissioned by BBC Public Service Content (i.e. BBC One/Two/Four teams) or made by BBC Studios separately for others. The increased separation of BBC Studios and BBC Public Service means there is a lot more independence between them.
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ITV regional news service

Technologist posted:
The issue is that with stat muxing the feed to each transmitter group requires say 7 coders ....
Not just one ....
so for the SW the BBC as the code and mux contractor would need to have another 7 coders say
( there is a number including N+m resilience etc coming close to 200 for uk regionality
in one mux ... For uk wide it only needs 14 coders say 1+1 arrangement )
The feeds to DTT transmitters are mostly dual path fibre so while there is not a vast increased cost to feed one separetky from the rest there are some costs ..
But the major cost is having more code and mux kit

BTW Sat distribution is only very effective when there are multiple transmitters like national DAB ..


Yep - I think people assume that making a new ITV region HD on terrestrial just needs a new 'feed' of that region, ignoring that if that is a new unique combination of channels EVERY channel in the PSB3 mux (BBC One HD, BBC Two HD, ITV HD, C4 HD, C5 HD etc.) will require a new encoder (even if its carrying the same content already being encoded elsewhere) and for redundancy, that will mean two new sets of encoders, plus a new unique combination of services will also need dual redundant fibre distribution to the transmitters taking it.

ITV are only making regional variations available on ITV HD because they can split their advertising - local news provision is very much a secondary consideration... Once the cost of providing more regional feeds outweighs the costs of providing them, they will appear...

When the BBC start regionalising BBC One HD in England, things may well change...
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Eurovision 2021 - Netherlands - NPO/AVROTROS/NOS

I may have missed it in this thread - but I saw a report a day or two ago that Amsterdam had decided not to proceed further with its bid to host.
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Channel Television during the 1979 ITV Strike

Markymark posted:
TV Ark are definitely not correct about TVS adopting ENG from their day 1, it was still 100% film for some months, possibly longer


Yes - Coast to Coast were definitely still shooting on film in 1983 / 1984.
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BBC Salaries 2018/19 Revealed

james-2001 posted:
AlexS posted:
Strictly is produced by a 'commercial' arm of the BBC and therefore isn't included in the released figures.


Isn't virtually everything made for BBC TV now classed as commercial now that BBC studios has been spun off? How much stuff is still made in house now, just news?


News, Sport and Children's aren't part of BBC Studios and only a small amount of radio is part of BBC Studios. (I think comedy is)
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BBC Salaries 2018/19 Revealed

BM11 posted:
harshy posted:
This is too much money given to these people, I’m sorry but these wages are ridiculous, big ears needs to take a pay cut.

This is one of the aims of publishing it - have the big stars leave and then see the BBC ratings fall (Less on tis because it's the content not the star but on BBC radio it is a big impact and will have a big effect on light entertainment)


Except that none of the salaries for TV light entertainment duties have been published have they? I think the figures for Claudia Winkelman and Zoe Ball don't include their work for BBC Studios, and are only their core BBC Radio salaries ?

I absolutely agree that BBC radio hit a problem, with the BBC publishing salaries cited as a reason for Eddie Mair leaving.
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Talking Telephone Numbers

UKnews posted:
noggin posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Are all BBC network packages cut in a suite like that by a craft editor? I believe in the regions it's a mix and match of craft editors putting more complex stuff together and the journalists themselves editing more straightforward stuff at their newsroom desktops.


Yes, though some packages are cut 'in the field' where I think FCPX is now the preferred solution (rather than the Quantel Marco software-only editor)

Correct - it used to be Adobe Premiere before a move to FCP7 and then a transition to FCPX once it was considered ready to go.


Quantel seemed to lose their way with Marco. Initially they announced it as a low cost (free?) introduction to their editing ecosystem - then everything went very quiet...
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Channel Television during the 1979 ITV Strike

ttt posted:
It's interesting to know, then, that the BBC's coverage of Wimbledon, or Coronation Street, is "cheap as chips", using your argument.


One big difference between the BBC's coverage of Wimbledon (which is now presentation only, as Wimbledon are now host broadcasting themselves) is that the BBC are pretty much entirely reliant on freelance technical crew and have been for many years now, so they have no staff costs during downtime (unlike regional ITV companies with staff crews that weren't 100% utilised) The BBC only need pay crew for the shows they work on, when they work on them. Increasingly the same is also true for production team (though Sport has a base level of core work that justifies a reasonably healthy staff core)
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Sunday morning TV memories

JKDerry posted:
Back in say 1991 all we had was BBC One, BBC Two, ITV and Channel 4 - there was no way that my mum and dad were going to get satellite, because it was not needed.

Back in 1991 Sky TV was not the same juggernaut we see now in 2019. I think they only had a handful of channels, and no extra channels at all from the BBC, ITV or Channel 4, that all started from 1998 onward.


1997 for BBC News 24 Wink (though only available on analogue cable at the time)
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Talking Telephone Numbers

Steve in Pudsey posted:
Are all BBC network packages cut in a suite like that by a craft editor? I believe in the regions it's a mix and match of craft editors putting more complex stuff together and the journalists themselves editing more straightforward stuff at their newsroom desktops.


Yes, though some packages are cut 'in the field' where I think FCPX is now the preferred solution (rather than the Quantel Marco software-only editor)
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Talking Telephone Numbers

Rkolsen posted:
With these EDLs on the TX servers where do you Edit are there dedicated suites for them or do they use Avid, Premiere Pro, Final Cut etc? What software do they run on? And in general what does the BBC use to edit packages to air?


The Quantel/SAM/GVG system uses the Quantel-era tools - QEdit, QCut etc. which are effectively cut down versions of Pablo Rio (!). BBC News Jupiter desktops include a QCut for desktop editing, which is cut-only for vision (but with reasonably sophisticated sound editing), and 100% proxy-based. QEdit includes far more effects (dissolves, DVEs, blurs, keying etc.) and edits with native pictures rather than proxies (and you have a choice of localised media or editing 'on the server').

The QEdit craft edit suites have broadcast monitors, fader and jog/shuttle control surfaces etc. The Quantel editing UI was developed with a lot of input from News VT editors.



Good pic of a BBC News standard edit there. Fader surface closer to camera is off-board mixer, surface further away is QEdit control surface.
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CNN London

JamesWorldNews posted:
WW Update posted:
I don't think Bettina was ever based in London. I recall her moving straight from Atlanta to Berlin. When the Berlin studio was eliminated, she served as a Berlin-based correspondent for a while before leaving CNN.


Ah, you’re right. Now I remember. The programme was co-hosted between London and Berlin, and Bettina and Chris alternated week on/week off as the Berlin anchor.

In fact, wasn’t that very newscast also Hala Gorani’s entry point into CNN London after moving from Atlanta?

I still find CNN London output to be far more watchable than anything that comes from Atlanta.

And the programme that comes from Abu Dhabi has grown on me.


I think if we're all being honest, the non-US output from CNN International is almost always more watchable. I find CNN Domestic shows pretty much an instant switch off, though the CNNi stuff from Atlanta was/is usually OK.