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BBC News: Presenters, correspondent & rotas

Markymark posted:
Andrew posted:
Huw always takes an extended break across the summer. In fact he’s had less of a break this time as he was on a few times around when we got the new PM.

There is always a stage in the summer when even the regular cover presenters go off and you have even more rare appearances.

Well probably get Fiona, Mishal or Tina appearing by Friday.


It was a strange programme generally last night, almost half of it was taken up by 'current affairs', style reports, rather than, 'this is what happened today'


Welcome to summer...
Cando and UKNewsHound gave kudos
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BBC Newsline

Rkolsen posted:
How did Newsline present the weather before? I’m thinking this is the default style from Meteogroup for VR or AR.

I’d like to know is the shot static when the camera moves or if it’s true VR. I ask because The Weather Company (formerly WSI) had a virtual set style that just was a generic chroma key and was used widely.


The Newsline studio has full camera tracking for their VR area (I think they use the BBC-invented, Radamec-now-Shotoku-marketed 'FreeD' system that ITN also use) and rendering (I think using VizRT) - though whether the weather uses this I don't know.
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Global Radio axes all regional/local breakfast shows

London Lite posted:
noggin posted:
kernow posted:

It's no different to ITV broadcasting to the Westcountry region from Bristol, or the Border region from Gateshead, or the various sub regions from other areas, although in ITV's case, they have actually kept newsrooms in those areas, which sounds like it may not be the case with Bauer.


Heck - Anglia News have never had a proper studio in the west of the Anglia TV patch. The Anglia News West studio was in Norwich in the beginning (in the early 90s) and has remained there ever since.


These days, they just use the same studio and pre-record one opt at 5pm as live.


Yes - though I don't think anything on ITV is technically an opt is it? (i.e. they aren't opting out of a network feed, but are sending their studio down as a contribution source to a centralised playout area, which also handles regionalised ad playout)
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TV Player

Bail posted:
London Lite posted:
noggin posted:

Yes - the BBC, ITV and C4 will want metrics on who is watching and what they are watching to drive personalisation.


As seen with the BBC's decision today to pull their radio stations from the TuneIn app from the end of August due to TuneIn not agreeing to share data metrics with the BBC.

And not at all to drive people to the BBC Sounds App, which I really don't know why it exists.


In an 'all IP' future - which is where broadcasting is going, personalisation and recommendations will be key, and gathering metrics personal to each user are vital. They are already a major aspect of Netflix's and YouTube's success (and why Netflix has user profiles within its app).

Additionally, once (or if) RAJAR and BARB become increasingly irrelevant, the BBC needs listener and viewer metrics to understand what viewers are watching and listening to and like or don't like.

Increasingly, any platform that can't supply the BBC with the metrics it feels it needs, will not be able to syndicate the BBC's content. The BBC has been quite audience-friendly with the TuneIn move. They will continue to supply TuneIn with BBC content on platforms that only support TuneIn asa route to accessing BBC services (like Sonos), but other devices (Amazon Echo, Google Assistant etc.) where BBC content is available via other routes that provide the BBC with audience metrics will no longer have TuneIn support for BBC services (as TuneIn don't provide the BBC with the data they want, in return for access to BBC services)

The BBC Sounds app, like the BBC iPlayer app, is a way of ensuring the BBC gets the metrics it wants, and is a way of developing a personalisation profile (like Facebook+Instagram, Twitter, Netflix, Amazon, YouTube+Google do) that will increasingly be vital.
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Global Radio axes all regional/local breakfast shows

kernow posted:
marshmallow posted:
Surprising they've bothered keeping the local show, even if it's going to be broadcast from nowhere near the local area.


It's no different to ITV broadcasting to the Westcountry region from Bristol, or the Border region from Gateshead, or the various sub regions from other areas, although in ITV's case, they have actually kept newsrooms in those areas, which sounds like it may not be the case with Bauer.


Heck - Anglia News have never had a proper studio in the west of the Anglia TV patch. The Anglia News West studio was in Norwich in the beginning (in the early 90s) and has remained there ever since.
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Channel Television during the 1979 ITV Strike

robertclark125 posted:
Did Channel TV do their own Sunday morning religious service, like Morning Worship, during the strike?


I don't think Channel TV had much in the way of OB facilities did they?
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TV Player

steveboswell posted:
Brekkie posted:
Aren't Freeview relaunching their app to have live streams of the main PSBs in one place?


Sort of. It just links directly to the live stream of the channel through the iPlayer/ITV Hub/All 4 app etc., so you need to have the separate app(s) installed as well.


Yes - the BBC, ITV and C4 will want metrics on who is watching and what they are watching to drive personalisation.
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Strictly Come Dancing | 2019

Markymark posted:
PFMC84 posted:
The "I've never heard of them" argument doesn't really matter, part of the show is getting to know the people and following their journeys and seeing how well they can pick up and adapt to dancing. I bet a lot of people had never heard of Joe Sugg from last year (I certainly hadn't) and yet he was a massive hit with viewers. I would say many will do the same with a lot of this years contestants.


Yes, true, but you still need to draw people in with at least one or two familiar (to them) names.


I'm not so sure that's so relevant these days - the show is almost bigger than the celebs. You know you're going to be entertained whoever the celebrities are, and will enjoy their development. The key thing these days is trusting that the producers will make a show we want to watch, and have chosen celebrity dancers who will entertain us, whether we know them or not.

I'm not sure I've ever watched Strictly because "Celebrity A" or "Celebrity B" was on it - and I suspect I'm not alone.

The celebrity booking over the past few years has been pretty effective - covering a nice wide range - sporting stars, TV presenters, soap actors, social media personalities, radio presenters etc. This year they don't have someone from a pop music background - but apart from that most bases are covered.
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New BBC Sport Football set

fanoftv posted:

A random observation but I notice from Dan’s explanation video, the Blue Peter clip and the Tez O’Clock Show that the studio walls are visible, obviously not an issue for BBC Sport, but is it a stylised addition or do that lack the simple black/lit cloth at Media City?


It's likely to be a style choice. You can see the cyc rail is being used for the green curtain for the BBC Sport VR set, if you wanted a black cyc for your set, you'd just hang those from the cyc rail instead (or star cloth, or other cyc material) Cyc rails are pretty standard in any studio, and studios will almost always have black cyc (often a heavyish Bolton Twill or similar) available as an option.
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BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

TVInfoSource posted:
Jobsworth posted:
TVInfoSource posted:
Not forgetting the steadicam which is more shaky than what would be experienced in an earthquake


Outside Source doesn’t use a steady cam.


They do, for the intro shot and sometimes during interviews.


No - those are just regular handheld moves, no Steadicam rig involved.
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New BBC Sport Football set

Jon posted:
I think it’s missing any animation in the backdrop.


The clouds in the sky animate.
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New BBC Sport Football set

Ooh - talent have shadow/reflections on the floor that match the VR environment. That's smart. Very smart. (That may mean the chroma key is happening in Viz - so it has access to the key. No idea how it works out talent depth - unless they are on fixed marks) Alex Scott's feet weren't perfect - but it's a major improvement over other VR sets I've seen in handling talent.

Sensibly the desk is on a real physical rostrum (like ITV News)

The keying is very clean - but the studio lighting is very flat and looks very 'soft' and a bit 'house light' with no eye sparkle highlights, and no real visible backlight?

The more I see the more impressed I am with how clean the key is. No 'tell tale' hard edges, and hair is very well handled. (Maybe not having any significant backlight helps this?)

Given that they are in a green box - with green reflected light coming at the talent from all directions, the team have done well to minimise the green spill on faces.
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