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BBC News @ 6: Behind the Scenes

So now that the NC comes from studio E during the 5 - 6pm hour, how does the team for the 6 rehearse?


They’re probably pros at it now. They could read copy at their desk or if they wanted to see it in a prompter try a DTL studio.


Plus a lot of the things that used to be rehearsed and/or recorded in that time-slot - like reporter Big Screen presentations are much rarer because there are fewer items with 'studio production', and far more 'location graphic' type sequences (all the David Shukman, Hugh Pym and Fergus Walsh stuff standing near walls where graphics appear for instance)
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The Sky News Thread

Interesting to see that Adam Boulton's home studio (backdrop at least) looks better than the actual Westminster studio screen.

True words. Don't understand the problem that in the year 2020 real background screens look far worse than a green screen or just a well adjusted TV with all the new technology. In the 2005er the newswall and everything looked far superior and more authentic, you couldn't even distinguish the 2008 newswall background from the real studio part. That's the problem when the studio as in this case the Westminster one is too small and the distance between background screens and TV presenter is too tight which makes the lighting for the presenter shine on the screens and completely deteriorates its CONTRAST!

Higher pixel density video walls need diffusion filters to reduce moire. Soft lighting - needed for Kay’s show - and diffusion filters causes the problem.


Yes and no. You can spend more money these days and get very fine pitch LED wall panels now that are so fine that they don't moiré across most shot sizes you will need, and thus don't need diffusion (which washes out LED if you can't keep the light off it). These do come with a much higher price tag.
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

Look back in the thread, the addition of third party linear channels looks possible in the near future, using it's backbone. That could become a game changer.


Out of interest - what backbone for linear channel distribution does Apple currently have that third parties could use? AFAIK Apple don't currently operate any linear channels themselves? The linear channels available via third party apps are leveraging existing third-party distribution/CDN streaming set-ups (iPlayer, All4, ITV Hub, Eurosport Player, Amazon Prime Sport etc.) rather than using an Apple distribution system?

Or are you suggesting that Apple are in the process of implementing their own backbone/CDN?

Or by 'backbone' do you mean platform (i.e. integration within the tvOS UI - rather than backbone in the more formal sense of 'distribution network')
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Steph's Packed Lunch

Jonwo posted:


In the overnights Steph's Packed Lunch has been consistently rating around 200k since Jan 4th.

The One O'Clock News on BBC One has been rating between 3.7 and 4.1m since Jan 11th, just to illustrate the ratings competition. Loose Women is getting 1.1-1.3m


Would be interesting to see how Channel 5 and BBC Two do in that slot.


Yesterday
BBC Two
Politics Live 1215-1300 400k
Hannah Fry's Mysterious World of Maths 1400-1500 (part of secondary school lockdown learning) 100k

C5
Nightmare Tenants, Slum Landlords 1220-1315 200k
Neighbours 1345-1415 700k.
AndrewPSSP and Jonwo gave kudos
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The Adventure Game

Yep - The Vortex was an addition in later series. The show evolved each series.
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Top of the Pops

Does anyone know why it (and some other programmes on iPlayer) is seemingly "recorded" from BBC Four, with the channel DOG in the corner?

And oddly, when you drag the mouse along the seek bar, the preview shows the BBC logo in the far left corner like usual?


Something I've noticed (on Sky catch up) is that programmes downloaded in HD will often be off-air recordings with the BBC Four DOG, and programmes downloaded in SD only seem to have the standard BBC DOG.

It's similar with programmes from other channels. BBC 1 and 2 programmes downloaded in HD will often be off-air recordings with the ECP and voiceover over the end credits (together with the end of an ident at the start sometimes), and will be clean on programmes downloaded in SD.


Sky iPlayer stuff has a very different route to the streaming iPlayer stuff I believe - as it has to be delivered to Sky's CDN for distribution, rather than being delivered by the BBC. I think there are a couple of reasons why what happens happens - and in some cases you may see BBC One HD Scotland/Wales/NI versions of shows initially too.
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Steph's Packed Lunch

I wouldn't be surprised if those two editions of Packed Lunch rate better than Steph or Helen Skelton presenting last Friday.


In the overnights Steph's Packed Lunch has been consistently rating around 200k since Jan 4th.

The One O'Clock News on BBC One has been rating between 3.7 and 4.1m since Jan 11th, just to illustrate the ratings competition. Loose Women is getting 1.1-1.3m
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Digitising Collection



Any Freeview licensed TV that allows recordings to be made will need to encrypt those recordings using something like DTCP or similar. It's a requirement of the Freeview licensing these days. This encryption should tie those recordings to the device that made them.


How long has that been a thing? I know that I can transfer files from a LOGIK (Curry's own brand) small bedroom TV that I got in 2015 to my PC. Software such as Handbrake doesn't like them "file table incorrect for video format" (or something like that) but they play just fine in Windows Media Player or VLC.


Isn't it just for the the Freeview HD channels. Back in the 00s I used to rip the files from my Toppy 5800 to play on an Archos (remember them ?) media player. Of course, all SD back then


I think it was originally for Freeview HD channels and Freeview HD licensing, but I believe the Freeview HD tag is now retired, so it applies to all recently licensed Freeview products though I don't know if there is a mandate for SD recordings (though I think some platforms just apply DTCP to everything, or otherwise encrypt their entire drive)
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Digitising Collection

Here is another crazy question for you. On front of the Combi player, is a USB port. I have a cable and plugged it from laptop to player. But nothing detected. Assuming its not as easy as just plug and play - is there anything I can do from laptop end to bring the combi to the computer? Might save on DVDs! Any thoughts?


That's likely to be a USB Type-A port (i.e. a master port into which you plug a slave device like a USB flash drive or hard drive). These ports are usually there to let you play media files stored on the USB connected-media on the DVD player.
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Digitising Collection


I think a lot of this sort of technology is somewhat bespoke in the way it works and there are differences between the way the features are implemented. My Smart TV I can connect a drive to and "record" to it, but I can't take that to the laptop and play it, as it doesn't want to know. I later found out these files are encrypted, but I suspect even if I dumped them to a DVD, MakeMKV wouldn't be able to extract them. I think it works on DVD/Blu-Ray because its a requirement of the specification for the media to hold the decryption keys, otherwise nothing would ever play, but outside of that, its anybody's guess.


Any Freeview licensed TV that allows recordings to be made will need to encrypt those recordings using something like DTCP or similar. It's a requirement of the Freeview licensing these days. This encryption should tie those recordings to the device that made them.

Ironically Sky HD recordings of FTA satellite channels aren't encrypted in the same way - and can be extracted from Sky HD hard drives with the right software - though FTV and Pay-TV stuff will be encrypted and not playable. Things get a bit confusing with All4 etc. downloads as the sting at the beginning is not encrypted, but the rest of the content is!
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Digitising Collection

Talking of MKV files, this may not be a problem for the OP, but on my unit although I could do a direct video->DVD squirt, I couldn't get it off the disk relatively easily. I had to use MakeMKV (which had to scan the entire VOB file) to get the contents out and into a MKV format.

I suspect this may be because there may be a need for encryption on these sort of devices for piracy reasons - on smart TVs if you are able to record to a USB device you can't take it to another device and play it back, as it will only work on the device it was recorded on. I don't know if this extends to DVDs recorded on a recorder though.


Most DVD Recorders with integrated HDDs will not allow you to access the file structure of the hard drive (even if you take the drive out), so you do have to burn to DVD and then losslessly (ideally) rip that disc. You can keep it as a DVD (in ISO or Folder format) - which will retain the DVD menu structure - or re-wrap the MPEG2 video (and PCM/MP2/AC3 audio) on the disc (which will be stored in .VOB files) into an MKV or similar wrapper.

I would avoid transcoding/re-encoding - which is what people mainly use Handbrake etc. for - but you can do a lossless re-wrap with some Handbrake profiles I think.
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Digitising Collection

How about mp4 files at a relatively high bitrate would that work for dvd mpeg-2 content at 8mbps?


MP4 usually just refers to the wrapper, not the audio and video codecs within it (though it can be taken to mean the ancient MPEG4 Simple profile which nobody uses these days I guess). Once you have baked in MPEG2 artefacts at 8Mbs re-encoding isn't going to improve things.

If you capture at a higher bitrate using h.264 (codec - also known as AVC or MPEG 4 Part 10) then you can get better quality at a similar bitrate, or higher quality.

For reference - broadcasters like the BBC use 50Mbs IMX50 MPEG2 for SD content and AVCi100Mbs Intra for HD content in the UK. (AVCi is h.264 codec but I-frame only so no compression between frames, just within the frame, IMX is similar but using MPEG2 I-frames)