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Interesting and unusual uses of teletext

WW Update posted:
Does anyone know anything about this? The promo aired on CNN International in 1994.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e1FEBVta3s


More in a Wired article here https://www.wired.com/1995/12/money-24/

Looks to be a Teletext capture solution for a PC - possibly using 'hidden' and/or encrypted packets to carry Reuters 1000 (I'm guessing this was a subscription rather than just capturing regular pages)
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Strictly Come Dancing | 2019

Whataday posted:
I thought it was called It Takes Two because it was a BBC Two companion show.


It's a play on words that works because the show is on BBC Two, but the title also works separately to the TV channel (as in 'It Takes Two to Tango') and so still works on BBC One.
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North American Affilliates/Network Set Design

cityprod posted:
Rkolsen posted:
That is a good set. Surprised Nexstar had the budget for a third camera and robotics. A lot of there studios (particularly the Daleks which is what they’re called over at TVNewsTalk) just have two studios and a cheap pedestal.


Kinda interesting that that term has made it over the pond. In 1993, when BBC News went virtual and used automated cameras on pedestals, if my memory serves, the cameras were also referred to as Daleks.


Yes - the newsroom cameras that were installed for BBC News 24 in each regional centre were also known as Daleks.
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UKTV Presentation

623058 posted:
Just to ask Is the UKTV name staying since BBC now controls it all? Also what's the deal with the UKTV stings on the Food network?


It's important to be clear when using 'BBC' to discuss this stuff.

UKTV is now a part of BBC Studios (which is the combined company formed by BBC Worldwide and the non-Sport, non-News, non-Kids, non-National/Regional arms of BBC Productions). This itself is a commercial subsidiary of the BBC - like BBC Studioworks. In some ways - think of BBC Studios as an independent production company that happens to be owned by the BBC (like Endemol/Shine or Tinopolis)

There is a significant separation between BBC Public Service/BBC Content and BBC Studios (and thus UKTV). I don't think BBC Studios would be allowed to rebrand UKTV services as 'BBC' without doing a deal with their owner, BBC Public Service, and I doubt BBC Public Service would want (or Ofcom allow?) BBC branded services to carry commercial advertising within the UK.
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Rugby World Cup 2019

harshy posted:
mromega posted:
ITV are producing end-to-end in 59.94p, including at Maidstone, then converting to 1080i25 for broadcast.

This is to prevent too many standards conversions in the chain and the artefacting that would introduce.

Where’s the satellite feed for this and is it in 8k?


Maidstone studios have fibre to the BT Tower so I doubt the ITV show is on satellite. These days I'd also expect the main feeds from Japan to Europe to be fibre for the main connectivity unless there is a good reason not to be? (Particularly if you have more than one feed to backhaul - like ISOs, stadium beauty shots etc.)
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Good Morning Britain

DeMarkay posted:
How have GMB managed to keep the text number 67890 for all these years? Even after GMTV and Daybreak.


Why woudl it change? The same production team and set-up made GMTV, Daybreak and continue to make GMB.
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Good Morning Britain

DanielK posted:
HarryB posted:
Saw a tweet from Erron with a hashtag #standbyregions. So I guess that’s what the new sting is that is being Quoted above


#standbyregions is the standard cue that they use to the regions IIRC.


The BBC equivalent is 'Standby Nations and Regions' Smile
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BBC to switch off red button text

Markymark posted:

Today with digital and flat screens, nothing much other than brightness and contrast you can use it for.


The frequency gratings are useful for setting sharpness to minimise any HF-detail masking. (Some TVs need sharpness at 0, others at 50%)

I'd quite like a zone plate...
Last edited by noggin on 20 September 2019 1:36pm
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Brexitcast - The TV Show

Steve in Pudsey posted:
Bit of a glitch on the Astons with it dropping to black briefly as it animates on.


That's a common symptom of a vision mixer keyer configured for one type of key, and a graphics box generating the opposite type of key.

On Sony mixers it's Clean Linear vs Linear, on Snell/SAM/GVG Kahuna it's Luma vs Linear. In other areas it's 'shaped' vs 'unshaped' fill, additive vs multiplicative etc. (It's to do with whether the key signal just modifies the background, and the fill is already modified, or modifies the background and the foreground)

If you use a Linear key when a Clean Linear (in Sony terms) is needed you get double fill shaping - which means extra black edges, and fades through black.
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Brexitcast - The TV Show

Cusack posted:
noggin posted:
Brekkie posted:
BBC4 only screen the Proms on Fridays now, and BBC2 only show a couple all summer. I'm sure BBC4 used to screen them all in it's early days, or at least they were on the red button.


No - only selected Proms have ever been broadcast on TV.

Orchestras and artists performing at the Proms are only contracted for their radio and live rights as standard - with TV rights costing an additional amount, which in some cases can be a very large amount... The costs of buying out TV rights to every single Prom performance would be massive.


I'm confused, why would the BBC need to buy the TV rights to their own event? Isn't it the BBC Proms?


The BBC Proms - as an event - pay for orchestras from around the world to come and perform at The Proms. They pay them for public performance (i.e. to perform to people sitting in the venue) and for Radio broadcast, as part of their core contract I believe. They DON'T pay the orchestras a blanket fee for their TV broadcast rights.

Yes - it's a BBC event. But that doesn't mean the BBC own all of the rights to the orchestral performances at that event. You don't own 'all rights' to performances just because you are staging the event.
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BBC One English Regions opt outs

Po6xyPop77 posted:
There is no flag emoji for Northern Ireland, so I improvised and put the general Irish flag in. Hope this clarifies it. Smile


There's a reason there isn't a flag emoji for Northern Ireland. A very good reason. Good Friday is a great day...
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Local TV

Markymark posted:
Brekkie posted:
The issue is the content is so substandard. On the Global stations there is no notable collapse in quality between national and local content and TV has generally had regional content which is watchable and well produced, something local TV hasn't been able to deliver.


I was in Amsterdam this weekend, I watched a little bit of AT5, the city's local TV service, it was much closer in production values to BBC/ITV regional than UK local. I wasn't sure how my telly was receiving its signal, and therefore whether it was Cable or DTT platform, but the EPG had BBC 1 and 2 on Ch 61 and 62, and BBC World on Ch 503. There were a load of other local TV services for other Dutch towns and cities buried down the EPG, most of them were just rolling pages, and I saw a couple of 'That's TV' style fixed camera in a bedroom' channels.


http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=&pid=1101&live=41&liste=2&lang=en

Doesn't look like you were watching DVB-T/T2 with terrestrial LCNs - BBC One and Two would be 19 and 20.

Looks like you were on Ziggo cable http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?brk=3&mux=C082&pid=19001&sec=0&live=202&lang=en&af=1 with BBC One and Two on 61 and 62 (though BBC World News is on 504 not 503 so I may be wrong?)