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Britbox UK - UK SVoD Platform.

UKnews posted:
noggin posted:
james-2001 posted:

A shame it's not the BBC, the iplayer is one of the very few 50fps streaming sites out there.


ARD and ZDF Mediathek are in Germany, and some of the CMore streams in Sweden are too.

Fortunately for sport things are getting better- BT Sport, Amazon (for its live sport and replays) and at least a couple of the streaming services from US sports (MLB.tv, NHL.tv) are all at 50/60p. I think Eurosport might be as well, at least on some platforms.


It’s a shame ITV, C4 and Sky are lagging behind.


I need to re-check Eurosport. The Eurosport Player and the Eurosport channels on Amazon Prime were both 25p last time I checked.
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Britbox UK - UK SVoD Platform.

james-2001 posted:
noggin posted:
If BritBox isn't showing native interlaced content (like all the classic Doctor Who) in p50 then they won't be getting a subscription from me.

This shouldn't be a surprise - AIUI ITV (presumably the ITV Hub team) are handling all the ingest and streaming sides of the operation...


A shame it's not the BBC, the iplayer is one of the very few 50fps streaming sites out there.


ARD and ZDF Mediathek are in Germany, and some of the CMore streams in Sweden are too.
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Newsnight

aircheck posted:
Ok, that answers a lot then - I did wonder if it could be because of the election night show - but I thought it would be unlikely they wouldn’t have done it anywhere other than Elstree, having done all the national General Elections from there since the move to NBH. I couldn’t see why they wouldn’t. But the point about Elstree being booked up in the run up to Christmas is a good point i hadn’t thought of - it’s funny that something like Strictly is affecting this year’s election programme!


Strictly comes from a BBC Studioworks studio in Elstree Film Studios, not a studio in BBC Elstree. It uses a standing set on the George Lucas stage.

The last three 'big studio' election shows have come from Elstree Studio D - which is on the BBC Elstree site (not Elstree Film Studios)

Strictly has had no impact on General Election planning as it comes from a different studio on a different site.
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Taskmaster move to Channel 4 confirmed

what posted:
Brekkie posted:
Interesting and a relief that the likes of Netflix were never amongst the rumoured locations for the show - this is the sort of show best served up weekly.

Netflix already have several shows with new episodes released weekly, like Patriot Act. I don’t think it would have been too much of a stretch for them to do the same with Taskmaster.


Aren't a lot of the Netflix shows that are released weekly co-pros with broadcasters? ISTR that contractually many broadcasters who are co-producing ensure that Netflix can't drop these shows in a lump to avoid people box-set binging before the episodes have been broadcast?

(Interesting case in Norway - Netflix co-produced Lillehammer with NRK and NRK had a clause that meant Netflix had to release on a linear schedule to match NRK's broadcast schedule. AIUI NRK then released the entire series in one lump on their catch up platform - which didn't change Netflix's contractual requirements to release weekly. Netflix were NOT happy, and didn't commission any further series)
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Britbox UK - UK SVoD Platform.

If BritBox isn't showing native interlaced content (like all the classic Doctor Who) in p50 then they won't be getting a subscription from me.

This shouldn't be a surprise - AIUI ITV (presumably the ITV Hub team) are handling all the ingest and streaming sides of the operation...
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NOW TV

London Lite posted:
Now TV have published a help guide to the boost. It appears only two Sky Sports channels are 1080/50. Sky Sports Main Event and Sky Sports Premier League. You also get three simultaneous connections,

Fox is staying at 720p and Gold in SD. As I speak, SyFy is still in SD, although that is going FHD.

https://help.nowtv.com/article/what-is-now-tv-boost


Presumably most of the content on the channels that show drama is 25p (or 23.976p sped up to 25p) - so those remaining 25p makes sense. Sky News would benefit from 50p, as would any channels carrying entertainment shows shot 50Hz interlaced.

Gold would be nice in 50p when it is showing stuff shot interlaced in studio - such as sit coms.
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CBBC Channel

kernow posted:
Josh posted:
Seems to be the generic pre-recorded "Enjoy some of this" links today. I can't think of anything that's causing this to happen.

I expect it's either because of technical issues or a staff shortage, meaning they can't record live links.


Record live links? If they are live, then surely they are live, not recorded? Or are they usually as-live ?
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Newsnight

Rkolsen posted:
Rkolsen posted:
JKDerry posted:
Oh dear, they had an aston with their political editor's name on screen for the start of the programme tonight. Bit sloppy.

Sloppy or they’re still occasionally figuring out the new studio. From mediaboy’s posts on social media when he launched 34D they were running Mosart but it appeared BBC Persian was still running ENPS. Don’t know if a Mosart system can work or be setup with two different NRCS.

Here’s the post I was thinking of...





Whose the “Mosartist” the one on the left or right? The one on the right has preview/program monitors and the one on the left looks like there’s a program monitor but may be looking at the promoter on the multiviewer. While in the middle appears to be a mid level new Sony switcher.


Unless they are setting up a new studio it's unlikely there will be Mosartist in a gallery day-to-day. That term is usually reserved for a Mosart guru who does initial set-up, not en end-user driving Mosart (who is usually called a 'director')

The person on the far right of frame looks to be the director, who is operating the Mosart screens in front of them to drive the show, as you can just see an X-keys style 'bash box' creeping out, and they have a big ENPS screen alongside their Mosart screen... They also have what look to be nice big TX and PVW screens - which is quite big hint they are the director (As this tweet is from October, presumably BBC Arabic have since migrated to OpenMedia)

There is someone in the middle sitting at the vision mixer - presumably because the show isn't being fully cut in Mosart (some shows cut interviews with a VM on the mixer still)

The person on the far left of frame with a duplicate Mosart screen (and a lighting desk) may well be a second director who is supporting the main director in Mosart terms, and handling incoming outside source routing (there is a BNCS screen next to their ENPS screen by the look of it) They presumably also load lighting plots for different shows.
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Top of the Pops

Rich Tea posted:
james-2001 posted:
Another thing I've noticed on the 20/10/88 edition, coming out of the D-Mob and Christians videos and the Enya performance (which is admittedly more video than performance, makes you wonder why they bothered having her in the studio) , the picture jumps and wobbles slightly. Presumably something to do with the editing of the episode?



Enya's debut on TOTP in 1988 with her No1 Orinoco Flow reminded me strongly of Kate Bush's debut on TOTP in 1978 with her No1 Wuthering Heights. So many similarities. Two very distinct women with a song that was very much set apart from what would have been expected to top the charts but doing so magnificently.

I agree that having her in the studio with that elegant performance did not need to be interspersed with the video, certainly to the extent they did. Her studio performance should have stood all by itself, as it was so good visually.


One of the major issues with some of these tracks was that they were so 'studio produced' that a straight live performance was impossible (how do you cover the gazillion layers of overdub on Orinoco Flow?) and so they were full mime. Sitting Enya at a piano, when there was very little (no?) piano on the track left you with nothing to really show when the track was doing something that couldn't sensibly be represented on screen.
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BBC iPlayer Roku app

Michael posted:
Grumble. Oh well I very rarely use it but the Baa-Baas v Fiji Game was on and I ended up using TVPlayer....

Still thinking of getting a mini PC to replace all my bit-part streaming products.


If the apps you need are on Apple TV 4K - do yourself a favour and get one of them instead... PCs are terrible at the basic things like Frame rate switching, remote control etc. Nobody wants to be fiddling with a track pad or air mouse to change channel or select their next Netflix viewing.
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Newsnight

Rkolsen posted:
Is Newsnight considered a seperate entity of BBC News? I know it has its own correspondents.


Historically Newsnight was made by the BBC Current Affairs department, not the BBC News department, and was based at Lime Grove, not TV Centre. However in the late 80s the two divisions merged and were based at TV Centre. However Newsnight at TV Centre had its own, separate offices, and usually edited in dedicated edit suites (though they shared tape suites with Newsround in some cases, they also had their own Avid edits back in the early 00s) They, along with every other BBC News TV show at TVC moved to non-linear editing using the Quantel-based Jupiter platform - but they had their own standalone FCP or Avid edits still for long form I believe.

When the TV Newsroom was re-organised in the mid-00s - Newsnight, Andrew Marr and a couple of other shows were operated and managed a bit separately as 'TV Programmes' whilst the One/Six/Ten and News Channel were 'News'.

Since the move to NBH they are more integrated - sharing a studio with BBC World News - and using Quantel/Jupiter editing. However I'm sure they could edit standalone should they need to be securely separated, or they could chose to pay to edit out of house.

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I’m wondering if there’s a firewall between Newsnight and the general news division. I’m thinking of if it’s something similar to CBS News and 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes is across the street from CBS News HQ, isolating themselves from the news division, and has separate editing servers. When clips appear on other CBS News programs (CBS This Morning and Evening News) there’s a large watermark when clips are played.


Not in the same way - but if you wanted to keep something secure and confidential, it would be possible to do so.
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The TV Question Amnesty Thread

Markymark posted:

WST was used by a number of other broadcasters world wide, (and some services still exist)


Yep - quite a number of European countries continued with WST over DVB, rather than going MHP or MHEG5. HbbTV is making in roads though.

SVT, NRK and DR all have text services still in Scandinavia (though I think TV4 in Sweden has closed theirs). ZDF and ARD have them in Germany - and ZDF are one of the few to use Level 2.5 enhancements (The ZDF logo uses the better graphics and a couple of pages have more colours)

The UK was quite unusual in not continuing with WST when it introduced DVB services (The Sky platform had some for a while admittedly, and the BBC had to reintroduced a slightly expanded service after initially almost closing CEEFAX on satellite to keep the Benelux viewers happy with TV listings and recipes - as their cable feed was sourced from Astra 28.2E).