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International News Presentation: Past and Present

Sh1ruba posted:

Aktuellt over on SVT2 seems to have moved to a smaller set, the same used by SVT's morning news programme, Morgonstudion. This set was temporarily used by Rapport before the move to the bigger new set they're in now.


Aktuellt and Rapport shared the previous permanent set, and both decamped temporarily to an expanded Morgonstudion set in the newsroom space. Rapport has moved into their new studio (along with Sportnytt and Kulturnyheterna - that often run back-to-back with Rapport)

AIUI Aktuellt will also return to the shared studio, but are likely to move in the New Year. I guess this makes sense, as it gives the shows that moved first time to troubleshoot and pilot new presentation techniques (so far Rapport seem to have done very little new in presentation terms with the new set) before another show moves in reducing the free time available in the studio.
Last edited by noggin on 8 December 2019 3:43pm
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2019 General Christmas election.

My understanding is that it wasn't actually a security risk, more a right of way issue.

There is a minimum width of walkway that needs to be retained as the piazza route from Hallam Street to Great Portland/Regent Street is a public right of way, and I suspect the space required for the election rig, combined with a Christmas tree, may have compromised this. As a result the tree needed to be moved or removed.

There are suggestions that the plan was to initially move the tree off-site and return it post-election, but it appears that the gardening company were not able to do this.
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BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

Inspector Sands posted:
Rkolsen posted:

In this piece around 8:50 a satellite truck with a ENG mast was shown. Are the ENG/mast trucks still used in the UK or have you all gone to SNG or CNG?

Terrestrial links are virtually gone now, replaced by satellite and nowadays IP via mobile networks. I can think of one BBC region who occasionally use theirs (though only a few regions and the 'nations' have a traditional SNG now)


That's not to say that sat trucks don't have masts, they're used for high shot cameras*, radio camera receives, off air reception etc*. However I suspect that it's only the older SNG trucks that have them, I doubt that new ones are fitted with them.


Local radio 'radio cars' are also now all low powered automatic KA band satellite uplinks, but some stations still have terrestrial recieves, but these days they'll be COFDM or similar


Yep - Digital microwave terrestrial is still in use for non-news contribution circuits in certain situations (it can be more reliable for high profile events, and higher bitrate, than satellite - where you have potential dual illumination issues still)

However for News it's been replaced pretty much entirely by DSNG, VSat and LiveU/WMT bonded IP (mainly cellular)

Back in the early 90s - analogue PAL composite microwave gear was in widespread use for contributions into network and local news, and there were FRVs and Links trucks that were microwave only. Digital DVB SNG trucks, then Bonded IP, combined with the move to component digital, and now HD, have all but ended the microwave newsgathering gear in the UK. I don't know of any UK News organisation that upgraded all their legacy analogue microwave gear to digital (BT may have upgraded some though?)

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What's CNG?


I'm guessing Cellular News Gathering (i.e. LiveU and WMT)

In the UK we also have a hybrid that uses VSat IP satellite connectivity (not just cellular) with LiveU/WMT gear to improve bitrate/robustness. The live links on This Morning and other ITV Daytime shows often use this hybrid approach.
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This Morning

RDJ posted:

I think it’s firmly assured and confirmed in the past that they’ve stated if one of them left, the other one would too. So we’d be looking at two new people rather than one.


Unless you are great friends (not showbiz friends) with both presenters involved, and have had a private discussion about this, I very much doubt anything is 'firmly assured and confirmed'...
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Premier League on Amazon Prime

Blake Connolly posted:
dvboy posted:
harshy posted:
The amazon stream was 21 secs behind.

It varies by device and connection.


Indeed, I was getting anything between 30 seconds and 1 minute 10 seconds delay when comparing the stream on my phone to a live fibre feed of the match. Never as much as 2 minutes though.


Live fibre feed in a broadcast MCR (i.e. direct from site?) If so uncompressed, J2K or LongGOP h.264 out of interest.
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Premier League on Amazon Prime

thegeek posted:
dosxuk posted:
BM11 posted:
I think the 2 minute delay is something that needs sorting if live streaming will be the future.


That's how streaming over the internet works.

How short is short enough to be acceptable? The live channels on YouView are a second or two behind real time (roughly on a par with DSat) but aren't really being delivered over the public internet.
I think if other broadcasters wanted to achieve something similar, they'd have to make their streams available as multicast to each ISP - which is then potentially going to come up against net neutrality rules.

Incidentally, I know it's not exactly easy for the average viewer to measure (other than by perhaps comparing against 5 Live commentary), but I think our UHD stream was only about 40 seconds behind; were 2 minute lags really that common?


I thought YouView used OTT unicast over public internet for some or all of its streams? I know BT TV uses multicast (and is tied to having BT Broadband who peer it), and you get BT TV on YouView branded boxes, but they aren't 100% the same thing are they?
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Premier League on Amazon Prime

harshy posted:
The amazon stream was 21 secs behind.

Behind what though? What is your baseline comparison?
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NBC News, MSNBC, ABC News and others from across the pond

cityprod posted:

ABC has mostly leaned ever so slightly Conservative since Peter Jennings died, nowhere near the Fox News level of bias, but usually just to the Conservative side of centre. They, like CBS have had problems keeping anchors long term after Peter Jennings death, but nowhere near to the same degree. First you had Bob Woodruff and Elizabeth Vargas, then Charles Gibson, then Diane Sawyer, and most recently David Muir, who now looks like he will be the next long running anchor of an evening newscast.


Though to be fair Bob Woodruff's departure was a result of his very serious injuries he suffered whilst reporting from Iraq - so I think that's a slightly different situation. ABC have consistently had very credible, competent evening news anchors, though Peter Jennings was an incredibly tough act to follow.
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UKTV Presentation

TheMike posted:
Looks like some changes on one of the UKTV transponders. 4 services added and a large drop in bitrates for the FTA services.

http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=12129&liste=1&live=69&lang=en


Looks like they have changed the modulation scheme as well though - as the bitrate for the transponder looks to now be 42.4Mbs when until the 19th Nov it was less than 35Mbs?
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Britbox UK - UK SVoD Platform.

thegeek posted:
UKnews posted:

I was at a sports industry conference a couple of weeks ago (to see what could be picked up / applied for news). One of the panels was a ‘state of the industry’ discussion with executives from BT Sport, DAZN and Eurosport. Streaming at 50p was mentioned by the COO of BT Sport (and I think the VP of broadcast and tech for DAZN) as one of the improvements that could be made that immediately delivered a benefit to all customers. So Eurosport and Britbox need to sort that out!

I somehow managed to miss that event, despite the subject matter and location.
The vast majority of sports content in Europe is still distributed as 1080i25, but for native UHD productions, 1080p50 is pretty trivial (and I think might already be happening)


To be honest - most 1080p50 sports streaming is using 1080i25 sources. Deinterlacing to 1080p50 rather than 1080p25 is a hugely better route to go down for sport, as you retain the 50Hz image rate and full temporal resolution.

1080p50 is entirely possible in many OB trucks (either those designed for 2160p50, or the last generation of HD trucks - though the former are probably a better choice) However as most international rights feeds are either 1080i25 or 2160p50 those are the likely source formats.

I know some eSports events are shot at 1080p50 or 1080p59.94 for live streaming - to avoid the judder of p25 or p29.97 - so it is happening.

Let's face it - the sooner we get rid of interlace and move to full frame rate progressive the better...
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Eurovision 2021 - Netherlands - NPO/AVROTROS/NOS

tightrope78 posted:
ChipperBird posted:
Small note but the Youtube channel has started uploading previous Grand Finals from the past decade which is nice. Also not region blocked in the US - hopefully that means the IP restriction that was in place last year is gone for 2020 this time

Unlikely as the EBU has signed a new deal with Netflix for exclusive US distribution rights for the 2020 Contest.


Is Will Ferrell's Eurovision movie being made with Netflix?
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I’m A Celebrity.........2019

HJL posted:
I assume biodegradable confetti is used? Which isn’t too bad for the environment!?


You can get multi-coloured paper confetti cannon - though the dye used for the paper isn't usually deemed 100% safe for aquatic habitats, even though it does biodegrade quick quickly (it's basically tissue paper).

You can get white confetti that IS deemed OK for aquatic habitats and will biodegrade.