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BBC One Christmas 2019

Whataday posted:
Christmas Day Overnights

Gavin & Stacey 11.5m
The Queen 7.7m
Strictly Come Dancing 5.6m
Michael McIntyre’s Big Christmas Show 5.2m
Call the Midwife 5.2m
EastEnders 5.2m
Coronation Street 4.5m
Mrs Brown's Boys 4.4m
Emmerdale 4.1m

Truly sensational rating for Gavin & Stacey - I wonder how it'll consolidate.


Are the ratings for 'The Queen' merged BBC / ITV / Sky or just BBC One at 1500?
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Tube Camera Oddities

james-2001 posted:
Probably were less bothered about inconsistencies between cameras back then, wouldn't have really shown up once you put it through PAL processing, sent it over the air and watched it on the smaller TVs of the time. The idea of it being seen on big screens in pristine quality 40 years later wouldn't have even been thought of.


Believe you me - they absolutely were bothered. Engineering maintenance and line-up of studio and OB cameras was taken pretty seriously. However there was only so much you could do - tubes degraded in performance terms, analogue circuits (and most cameras in the 60s and 70s were analogue, though some started to have digital control of analogue processing) similarly weren't always consistent and degraded.
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BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

itsrobert posted:

Did the BBC World channel idents, countdowns, weather ident etc. come off LaserDisc as well at that time (i.e. about 2000-2003)? Or was it just the break filler and the rest was on a server?


I don't think LaserDisc (the Philips/Pioneer composite domestic format was used) - they were likely to be Sony CRV Component Recordable Video (which used a caddy to store a Write Once Read Many analogue component video disc)

CRVs were certainly what BBC One and BBC Two idents and the Fill (and for some looks the Key on a separate disc) for the BBC News titles from the mid-90s to the early 00s.

CRVs were a significantly higher quality than LaserDisc.
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A Netflix conundrum.

DVB Cornwall posted:

NB, I use 'BBC' loosely as indeed the BBC is only one of a collection of credited producers of the three series mentioned, so content could have been licensed from any one of the production partners rather than the Corporation.


My understanding is that most footage included in BBC Studios NHU productions that isn't archive, is shot by teams commissioned by the BBC Studios NHU, rather than being original footage commissioned by co-production partners. In most cases the co-pro partners are there for financial support and editorial input (and/or reversioning rights)
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A Netflix conundrum.

Whilst co-productions are standard for blue-chip series (and have been for decades) and it is possible to buy archive from broadcasters and production companies - it sounds like this was more a footage sharing / co-shooting deal. There are strong environmental and ethical arguments that if two companies want the same material of the same event, co-shooting is a better solution than sending two teams to compete.

Given that 'Our Planet' was made by a company run by a former head of the BBC Natural History Unit (which makes Planet Earth, Blue Planet, Seven Worlds One Planet etc.) and that a lot of the teams (self-shooting producer/camera ops) who shoot this material are freelance and will work for both the BBC NHU and other indies, there are likely to be close relationships between the teams (many of which are based in Bristol)
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TV Channel Predictions 2020

Kc123 posted:

BBC will do a Co-production deal with Netflix with some of their big shows or new dramas. (would love Netflix to get the production of Doctor Who)


Do Netflix actually produce that much in-house? I thought they commissioned from others for their productions (The Crown is made by Left Bank Pictures for instance)

If Netflix co-produced Doctor Who with the BBC the chances are they would continue with BBC Studios (the BBC's equivalent of an in-house indie) producing it, just as Amazon co-produced Good Omens with the BBC, with BBC Studios producing it.

Ditto HBO and Sky - they commissioned Chernobyl from Sister Pictures (with Jane Featherstone ex-of Kudos and Shine UK)
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The decline of BBC News online

radiolistener posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
radiolistener posted:
You’ll find the bbc happy giving away it’s services for free to the world whilst the British licence fee payer has to stump up money for Bobby Sue in Detroit to enjoy it.

You realise that most BBC services outside the UK carry advertising, including the website? Some other content is sold or licensed to other broadcasters, and some has subscription.


'Bobby Sue in Detroit' will get ads on bbc.com, will be paying to watch BBC America or Britbox or watching BBC content on a PBS station, who buy in BBC content

If they are using the co UK they will get all radio and news services bar video for free.


Nope - non-UK IP addresses are redirected from .co.uk to .com (and vice versa) If you are outside the uk and go to bbc.co.uk/news you will be automatically redirected to bbc.com/news and get embedded adverts. (You can't get to the bbc.co.uk site from outside the UK unless you have an IP address that is associated with the UK)
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BT Sport - Launch of BT Sport Ultimate

DVB Cornwall posted:

I suspect the anticipated new box for TV next year has come in at a per unit cost much higher than the present and a mechanism for recovering the added costs was needed.


I've always assumed (rightly or wrongly) that that was the reason that Sky Q receivers moved to that model.
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Coronation Street

davidhorman posted:
Markymark posted:

I have overscan switched off on my TV, but it only seems to apply to native HD resolution, SD channels (from both the internal tuner, and PVR), are overscanned regardless. That will be a feature of the TV's internal upscaler.


That's for two reasons: firstly disabling overscan is so you can get a 1:1 correspondence between video pixels and TV pixels, which gives a slightly sharper image, which won't happen with an SD source anyway so there's not much point in it. Secondly SD sources should be treated as if they have nominal analogue blanking to get the aspect ratio right, which necessarily means cropping the left and right (and top and bottom sometimes have partial lines which are never meant to be displayed either).


That interpretation does vary from TV to TV (or manufacturer to manufacturer). Some have 1:1 pixel options (which only work at panel resolution - or 2:1 multiples thereof - so 1920x1080 is 2:1 matched on a 3840x2160 display along with 1:1 matched 3840x2160, but 1280x720, 702x576 are cropped and zoomed) others have zero overscan options which work in all modes.

if you have a Sky, Freesat or Freeview HD box you can often get your set top box to output 576i stuff at 1080i/p so then 1:1 match this and avoid overscan too (though a Sky HD box will not aspect switch as it would if it was in AUTO mode and output 576i as 576p with aspect flags)
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The Late Late Gay Byrne Irish Television Thread

JKDerry posted:
Ardmore Studios provide RTE with the same facilities as Elstree Studios provide the BBC with for Strictly. Both dance shows required an independent large studio service for their big prime time dance show.


Though Elstree Studios don't provide facilities directly to BBC Studios (the production company) for Strictly. BBC Studios (the prod co) book the facility as a full-studio operation from BBC Studioworks (the resources company), who have a long-term deal themselves with Elstree Studios to provide the George Lucas stage, make-up, dressing and green rooms, access to some canteen facilities (though this may be separately negotiated between BBC Studios and Elstree Studios and not via BBC Studioworks) and some parking.
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Noel on Strike

Inspector Sands posted:
Reposting from the Twitter/social media thread.....

On a recent episode of Richard Herring's podcast Annabel Giles talks about her failed Gotcha, she was the only person to catch them out:
https://youtu.be/uxP8vhioQtw?t=3045 (starts at 50:45)
Interesting that the camera was watchable live by the team, I assumed it would just record locally


Quite a few Gotchas were recorded studio or OB multicamera, so the production team would have seen them in the gallery or scanner when they were recording.

Many of the scenarios involved presenters booked for unusual presenting gigs - and in those days studios and OBs wouldn't have routinely used camcorders (so having them would have been a bit suspect)
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Coronation Street

Markymark posted:
noggin posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
Right in the shot or because there's no overscan on these showings?


Overscan is really a function of the display you are watching on, not of the way the programme is shown.

Chances are that modern displays are less overscanned or not overscanned at all (I've disabled overscan on our TV entirely - but by default most flat panels simulate a small amount of overscan still) - so things that would have been hidden by significant overscan on most TVs when the episodes were recorded and not seen by most viewers, are more likely to be seen these days.

(However in many cases they may well have been seen on even overscanned TVs and just left in on the basis 'Joe Public never clocks a damn thing')


I have overscan switched off on my TV, but it only seems to apply to native HD resolution, SD channels (from both the internal tuner, and PVR), are overscanned regardless. That will be a feature of the TV's internal upscaler.


Yes - some flat panel TVs only allow overscan simulation to be removed when fed their native resolutions, others allow it at all resolutions. (Some don't allow it to be disabled at all)