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London Live

Markymark posted:
BcastCam posted:


I see also Cloudbass did the BBC NYE Fireworks coverage. That's been Arena's gig for a number of years until now.


Arena did the New Year's Eve Craig David concert (along with MixBus for the sound), but the fireworks is a separate gig and has been Cloudbass for a couple of years now I think.
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The Big Amazon PV Streaming Test....

London Lite posted:
The crux for me is that the main reason I have a prime sub isn't for SVoD or sports fixtures, but for same or next day delivery on physical items.

Amazon still have a long way to go when it comes to getting me to use Prime Video on a regular basis. Bar some of the original commissions, the content still isn't anywhere as good as Netflix or even Britbox and the navigation is poor.


Yes - the UI is appalling in user experience terms. Ironically I think it's better on an Apple TV than it is on an Amazon Fire TV... Often the only way I've found of easily getting to content on the Fire TV is to use voice search - something I never resort to on other platforms.
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TV Breakdown Appreciation Thread

thegeek posted:
Jacq posted:
It often turns up between the moon that signifies the end of Cbeebies Bedtime and the "Cbeebies has gone to bed" slate.

Just for a second or so, when the transmission ends, I guess.

Perhaps the automation is doing things in the wrong order - it's likely that the same video server provides the breakdown slide and the off-air slate, and it's being cut to air before it's been cued to the correct content.


I don't think any of the BBC domestic channels in the UK now use separate video servers and graphics boxes since they switched to Morpheus ICE? This is an all-in-one box with integrated video replay, graphics generation and sound+vision mixing all in one box, all in the IP domain (live OBs and studio feeds are converted to IP - not sure if 2022 or 2110 - upstream of the playout area now)
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The Queen's Christmas Message

Inspector Sands posted:

I suppose the big difference then was that the for most ITV company every programme was from an outside source, whereas now excluding the news there's only one live programme on TV on Christmas Day and that's the Morning Service on BBC1.


There is usually live news on Christmas Day on BBC One and ITV?
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The Queen's Christmas Message

thegeek posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
Rkolsen posted:

I wasn’t sure if they all relied on the BBC server or if Duncan just meant it played off a server for the BBC. Also would my suggestion of the simulcast - -uplink to Satellite or BT and all take that signal - properly assure all is in sync (aside from maybe minor encoding/tx delays)?

There is no requirement for it to be shown exactly in sync across all the stations, I don't see why there would be. Plus as you say it would never be in sync at the viewers end.


Sending it out a few days before hand and playing it out on server is far more reliable. Sending it all over the place on circuits and satellites would be totally un-necessary. There's not a lot of live TV on Christmas day and MCRs (in the British use of that term) are minimally staffed.

When everything was still analogue, it must have been a wee bit satisfying to look at two adjacent off-air monitors and see them showing frame-for-frame the same thing, knowing that they were coming from two independently-cued VTRs in different control rooms. The number of people who would have been able to enjoy that might even have numbered in the dozens Smile


Yep - most TV and Radio newsrooms usually had BBC One, BBC Two, ITV and C4 Off-air TVs (some may not have had C4 or BBC Two), plus a couple showing CEEFAX and Oracle/Teletext UK headline pages or news indexes.
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The Big Amazon PV Streaming Test....

Roku devices give HDCP errors if they get too hot. Now TV devices are made by Roku. I know people who have clamped large bits of metal to their Roku sticks to give them a bigger heat sink to avoid this.
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This Morning

Josh posted:
Looks like they use Google Slides for their viewer photo slideshows, just saw the interface


ITV corporately moved to a Google-based IT system a while ago - so that may make sense. (Or may be co-incideintal)
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Disney+ UK Launch Date Confirmed

Yep - using the word 'pulled' is very sloppy. That would suggest ABC/Disney have removed their content for a contractual breach or similar. What this seems to be is a non-renewal of rights agreements at the end of a regular licensing period - which is a long way from 'pulling'.
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The Big Amazon PV Streaming Test....

harshy posted:
Hello noggin

It’s the smart tv app on the LG no wires it’s connected directly to the a Virgin router.


An internal app complaining about HDCP is very odd (there may not BE any HDCP internally as it's really only used on HDMI,DVI and Displayport connections).

That suggests there's an issue with the app or the LG OS (that's WebOS?) that's causing the issue. Very odd.

Amazon Android apps (not relevant directly to a WebOS TV) are very sensitive in their detection of anything additional in the playback path (nVidia Shield TV refresh rate detection apps trigger HDCP errors on Amazon but not other DRM-ed streaming services like Netflix for instance) - so I guess that may be an issue.

is it consistent across HD and UHD matches?
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The Big Amazon PV Streaming Test....

harshy posted:
Neil Jones posted:
harshy posted:
This is useless please put the matches on proper broadcast telly.


It is not "useless". It worked. I note your posts earlier in the the thread that saw you have issues and in fairness Amazon did have issues when they first ventured into this with the tennis but they have largely resolved the bulk of these now and the bulk of the football streams worked happily. I'm sorry they didn't work for you but maybe you should take steps next time to help improve your chances. Wired connections tend to help where available.

It dosent work my TV keeps complaining of a HDCP issue even though it shows other amazon stuff fine.


Are you watching in UHD or HD ? HDCP errors on 2160p50 stuff may be symptomatic of a dodgy HDMI cable not capable of full HDMI 2.0 bandwidth. Most other Amazon stuff is p24 - which will run at lower bandwidth.

I used to get frequent HDCP error reports on a number of devices until I replaced the HDMI cables I was using with low-cost HDMI 2.0 capable (licensed HDMI Premium cables https://www.hdmi.org/spec/premiumcable ) If this is your issue - DO NOT pay silly money for these - they are available in the <£10 range on Amazon.
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BBC One Christmas 2019

Steve Williams posted:

And I say this every year, but people weren't bored of Strictly two weeks ago when it was getting twelve million viewers. Nobody remembers what was on telly last week, let alone last year.


I think the difference with Strictly is that the Christmas special has no real viewer 'investment' in the way the weekly competitive show does. A large chunk of the format has effectively been removed, and it is effectively a nice music and dance show with no real viewer involvement. It's not 'must see' in the same way that the Saturday and Sunday weekly shows are.
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BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

Newsroom posted:
Rkolsen posted:
Newsroom posted:
Something odd occurring this morning... Wasn't 'The Briefing' laid to rest?

The 5am bulletin began with Mike Embley welcoming PBS viewers as well as UK and World..... and then then this popped up in the second half hour.

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For now it is. It returns January 2nd. I imagine it popped up because the people building the show used preexisting templates.


Right, but it didn't kick in until the second half hour. That's surely not automated.....


Most BBC News programmes are (or were) made in half-hour running orders. If the 'brand' of a show is dependent on a code at the top of the running order, the second half-hour's running order (or the template that it is automatically created from to generate pre-populated skeleton running orders that are then populated by production journalists) could easily have a rogue command in it.