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Coronavirus | Television News Coverage

Rkolsen posted:
Also one of the signs on top of the monitors says that it also runs ENPS. What BBC services are still running on ENPS?


The label is almost certainly a legacy of when they were running both systems in parallel - and you needed to know that the machine you are logging in to had the right software on it before you wasted your time logging into it to find it didn't.
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Disney+ UK Launch Date Confirmed

bilky asko posted:
noggin posted:
I guess it's conceivable it was mastered using a vector-based rather than bitmap-based animation system so IF that data still exists you may be able to re-render in HD - but that feels like a long-shot...


The show was only animated with digital ink and paint (on a regular basis) from Season 14 onwards (2002), and the show was made in HD from 2009, so I presume that could only every apply to 7 years' worth of the show.


Yes - thinking about it The Simpsons has been around since The Tracey Ullman Show hasn't it - so it must have originally been a film animation.

I remember it being digitally produced in the early 00s when it was still SD - I wonder whether that was 480-line SD rendered?
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Disney+ UK Launch Date Confirmed

Jonwo posted:
Quality of restoration of older TV shows and movies varies from studio to studio, Warner Bros for example has done restorations of both Gone with the Wind and The Wizard of Oz and the results are stunning especially when you see it on TV as they provide the newer copies of those films. In regards to TV, Friends is one that comes to mind where the newer copies look better than they did originally.


Yep - it all depends on whether you have decent source material, and the budget to recreate EDLs if they no longer exist and the show was originally shot on film and cut on tape.

ISTR that Star Trek : TNG used some image recognition stuff to match re-telecined HD rushes to the original SD edit masters as the EDLs didn't survive.

If you don't have the film elements and only have SD VT copies, then up conversion is the only route.
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The Sky News Thread

Rkolsen posted:
Noticed a few reports from Sky News have made it to MSNBC. It appears they just pulled the package straight from Sky's server as the reporter tagged out as Sky News.


I'd be a little surprised if they pulled straight from the Sky production server (unless Sky and MSNBC are being very good at sharing rights metadata through their production platforms) - though I wouldn't be surprised if they were file transfers.
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Question Time

commseng posted:
That must have been a more recent thing, back when I was involved it was done by Millbank.
Who turned around the programme which had been digital all the way through the chain, via Beta SP to give the PAL artifacts it had been missing........


Though to be fair the PAL artefacts weren't introduced by the Beta SP...
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Disney+ UK Launch Date Confirmed

james-2001 posted:
It's worse that they aren't even proper HD restorations, just the SD copies put through some quite awful processing. At least the other shows I've mentioned are proper HD restorations, even if they are cropped.


Wouldn't you have to re-animate The Simpsons to make it HD? Wasn't it animated in the 480 line SD video domain in the SD era, meaning there is no HD-quality source that you could remaster from? At best you can do a high-quality upscale?

I don't think it was mastered on film.

I guess it's conceivable it was mastered using a vector-based rather than bitmap-based animation system so IF that data still exists you may be able to re-render in HD - but that feels like a long-shot...
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NBC News, MSNBC, ABC News and others from across the pond

dosxuk posted:
My point is that there's still a bunch of people crowded into galleries and edit suites and control rooms and so on to make these programmes happen. You're not reducing any travel by building a studio in some presenters front room. Setting a load of kit up, even if it's only for an hour, that's still a bunch of people who didn't otherwise need to travel around and go into peoples home's, and as for having a crew sitting in a truck outside, that's even worse.

This isn't being done because studios are closing, or because there's not enough staff to run a normal service. It's being done because the networks want the optics of "look, I'm staying at home". In itself, that's not necessarily a bad thing, but don't mistake it for a contingency plan. It's extra work and extra travel at a time when we're being told not to do that.


Lots of programmes are reducing the staffing levels in their control rooms to ensure social distancing - by moving operational areas to remote locations elsewhere in the building, or even working off-site. There are a lot of remote production tools now available.

Plus shows are being simplified and crew downsized to reflect that.
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Coronavirus | Television News Coverage

Markymark posted:
thegeek posted:
Markymark posted:
And the presenter, so three people in the confined space of an average British living room. I don't get it?

The cameraman can lock off the shot and go and have a cuppa in the kitchen?

I understand the concerns - I know folk who are doing their best to still make programming but at a safe distance from colleagues or working from home as best as possible.


Hang on though, households are not supposed to host visitors ?


Yes - though that advice is primarily to avoid socialising - where a 2m exclusion rule won't be enforced rigidly, you may share crockery and glassware and food etc. and may relax your safety. (A lot of people have a sense that 'home is safe' at the moment)

It is possible to risk assess and mitigate the risk of a minimal crew filming in a single, isolated room in your house, at a safe distance and with the correct hygiene protocols in place.

HOWEVER - the audience perception of doing that may not be a good idea, even if the risk is minimal.

Chances are that The Steph Show will be deemed a public service programme on a public service broadcaster, and there will be support for it being broadcast.
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Coronavirus | Schedule Changes

Markymark posted:
Charlie Wells posted:
According to his weekly email Martin Lewis is hosting another MSE Coronovirus special this Thursday at 8.30pm on ITV.


I wonder if programmes such as this (BBC and ITV), that are being produced with 100% PSB values should be simulcast on BBC 1 and ITV ?


I doubt ITV advertisers would be at all happy with that. ITV have to try and stay afloat somehow - diverting their audience for that show to BBC One feels like that could damage their reducing income yet further.
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Coronavirus | Schedule Changes

Jonwo posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
With the TV soaps stopping production, I see The Archers has reduced from six to five episodes a week.

I wonder whether we'll see a podcast version of EastEnders (produced with actors at home) on BBC Sounds once episodes in the can run out?


I'm surprised The Archers needs to reduce, surely that can be recorded without the need of a studio?


I suspect they are reducing the number of episodes each week to preserve the stockpile of already-recorded episodes in case they have to stop production.

There is no doubt a scenario where the definition of 'essential' workers in broadcasting will presumably only include those in production of news and factual output, and those keeping the channels on-air.
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Saturday Night Takeaway 2020

Parker posted:
Interesting to see just how much ITV stuff is made using BBC Studioworks facilities now, but they need new stickers on the studio doors at Elstree Smile


If you want to make shows in London - the 7 studios that BBC Studioworks still have spread across three sites (TV Centre, Elstree Film and BBC Elstree) are going to be high up the list of places you will be using. (There are others - but not that many)
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Coronavirus | Schedule Changes

fanoftv posted:
Tim’s tweet would imply that it must have been down to a lack of staff. On the Last Leg they mentioned having to use different staff to stand in where others were absent. It’s going to be a tricky few months ahead.


I didn't infer that from Tim's tweet at all ?

My guess (and it's only a guess) is that a decision has been taken to minimise set/strike shows in studios wherever possible at the moment - as it's almost impossible to follow government social distancing policy when doing so. That would also explain why Lorraine is merging with GMB in TC3? It means Loose Women can be left set-standing in TC2 - significantly reducing the number of stage crew, and avoiding them needing to work closer than is safe to each other?