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New look STV News at Six

When people are talking about 'furloughed' staff what do they actually mean?

People who are not on-screen when they usually would be? (And an assumption is then made about their employment status?)

People who have been suspended from their jobs on 80%-100% pay (80% funded by the government scheme - and thus are not allowed to work)? In Britain this is what I take 'furlough' to mean - as it's a word really only in common usage since the government introduced their 'furlough' scheme?

People who are working from home / off-screen?

People who are on mandatory unpaid leave or suspended unpaid, with a guarantee of re-employment in the future? (Unlikely hereI'd have thought - though this is common in other countries where unemployment benefits kick in quickly - such as Scandinavian countries)

People who are on annual leave (possibly heavily influenced by their employer...)?

People who are freelance and simply not currently being booked?

The term seems to be being thrown around a lot without any clarification?

**EDIT - I see STV are furloughing people https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5558827/coronavirus-scotland-stv-john-mackay-furloughed/ - presumably John was staff or long term contract not via a service company**
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Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

Jenny posted:
Last night an announcer on BBC One Scotland told us "socialising is vital for primate survival". Having supported an authoritarian anti-socialising policy for the last month and a half, now they're actually gloating about it.


'Authoritarian anti-socialising policy'? Seriously? How else do you get the Rt down?
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Election 2010

nigel posted:
Still prefer Studio D at BBC Elstree... it had more authority and the weeks Ten coming from there looked fabulous.
Plus, how many millions were spent upgrading connectivity to the site ?


The Elstree Hub was still needed, and used, for the election from BBC New Broadcasting House, and that connectivity is also used for other shows from Elstree.
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Good Morning Britain in 2020

Brekkie posted:
Well it's the only way Sean seems to get to present nowadays. I assume he's been furloughed from whatever it is he does for the show now.


I'm not sure UK broadcasters are furloughing presenters at the moment.
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Educational Broadcasting 2020

Riaz posted:

It has intrigued me why the BBC never promoted educational programmes relating to school subjects directly to children and their parents in the years when they were available on a linear channel, but instead decided to operate Bitesize as an internet based service at a time (1998) when only around 10% of families with school age children had the internet at home, and in most cases connection was made with modems and the misery of time metered telephone calls.


Didn't Bitesize include Learning Zone broadcasts of its content too, overnight, for schools to record? (It kind of followed on from the BBC Select service)
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Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

Inspector Sands posted:
noggin posted:

Shows which are usually made live or as-live are more likely to use the 'live delivery' approach, but for studio shows where studio cameras would be ISOed and the show taken to an edit and a dub, local recording in quality can make more sense as it keeps the quality up (and edit out delays)?

Something like Have I Got News For You has a lot of edits for timing and tightening when it's done in a studio so I dread to think what the added delay from doing it at home would be like.

If it is done that way presumably the low res conference call can be used for an offline or paper edit while they're waiting for the courier with the ISOs


I wouldn't be surprised if the ISOs were uploaded as files still - after all, all of the cameras are shrunk, so you can probably get away with a reasonably low bitrate, but you could be right...
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Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

mapperuo posted:
Quote:
For live shows (such as Early Kick Off on BT Sport) this is what is used.
Recorded shows don't always have enough time to bring back and ingest the media, so prefer this approach.


Jake Humpreys link for BT Sport is on 1w during his live show, they must have parked a sat truck in his drive 😀


Ah - he has been using a Mobile Viewpoint WMT previously - I wonder if it's just too patchy.
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Election 2010

Rkolsen posted:
UKnews posted:
RDJ posted:
Backstage staff were only backstage last year because of how sudden the election was called and the lack of usual studio availability.

Hasten to think that should the usual studio in Elstree or even TC1 has been available they would have gone with that and with their usual style as per the rest of the elections in the 2010’s, all four of them in total!

The decision to use NBH was in the planning long before the snap election - albeit with the idea there was a chance there could be one at any time. It's one of the reasons why the European elections earlier in the year had been produced from there.

But say for a scheduled one and Elstree was available they’d go with them again?


My guess (and it's only a guess) is that NBH with the Elstree Hub only will be the model for the future. It's a lot more cost-effective, and worked pretty well last year. With the BBC still having to save significant amounts of money year-on-year - it's kind of difficult to justify a more expensive studio solution once you've delivered a cheaper one that still works on-screen and uses all your existing facilities.
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Loose Women | 21 Years Old - Sept 2020

LondonViewer posted:
all new Phil posted:

I interpreted that as meaning they were in a different location to normal (maybe the GMB soft area or a section of the TM set?).

TC1? Looks like the studio has retractable seating in the pr shots.


If that's the case they may be using TC1 to allow for social distancing of crew - or to allow for multiple sets to be left standing rather than setting and striking - which is also difficult to do with social distancing?
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Loose Women | 21 Years Old - Sept 2020

skynewsfreak posted:
From the website: https://www.itv.com/loosewomen/articles/heres-how-loose-womens-new-shows-will-work

We've made a few important adjustments and here's what you need to know.

When the women return they'll be broadcasting from a new studio (not their normal studio then) and there'll be strict social distancing measures in place. Three women will sit on an extended panel in studio and they'll all be two metres apart.


That reference to a 'new studio' could well just be someone in their social media department confusing 'studio' and 'set'. Lots of people do...
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The Steph Show

Brekkie posted:

(And going way off topic but how has Sewing Bee been rating on BBC1?)


Very well. Repair Shop and Sewing Bee are doing great as a double bill after their move to BBC One.
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Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

commseng posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
simpfeld posted:
With lots of shows featuring many Internet fed video contributions. Anything special being done for this? Or just racks of PCs being plugged HDMI into the desk (with maybe cropping to hide controls etc) running zoom, teams, skype etc? Or any special broadcaster software or devices being deployed? I.e do they give people special software before their appearances?

Just interested.

For single contributions it is as you say just PCs running TV the software, either one with an SDI output or one with a convertor that makes it SDI* You can't really go about sending special software to contributors, you just use what they have, whether that's Skype or Facetime or WhatsApp. Reporters will have special software like Luci Live


I'm pretty sure that in a lot of cases where there's real time interaction, for example Have I Got News For You the recording is taking place via a Zoom chat or similar, but what you're seeing is recorded locally. The quality isn't studio quality but it's much better than streaming Internet quality.

Not always.
Some of the programmes using broadcast quality contributors are being bought back to studio centres, and recorded locally there.
It allows problems with any of the shots or audio to be seen at the time, and also allows direction from production staff (who are often themselves at home).
In this case the earpiece and monitor return feeds are derived from the web based solutions, but the broadcast feed is higher quality, either via MVP, satellite links, or even the latest smartphones, where quality is good, and remote control is possible.
For live shows (such as Early Kick Off on BT Sport) this is what is used.
Recorded shows don't always have enough time to bring back and ingest the media, so prefer this approach.


Yes - both approaches are in use for different applications.

Shows which are usually made live or as-live are more likely to use the 'live delivery' approach, but for studio shows where studio cameras would be ISOed and the show taken to an edit and a dub, local recording in quality can make more sense as it keeps the quality up (and edit out delays)?