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New Meridian, BBC South & South East Thread

Rkolsen posted:
dvboy posted:




Are the English regions's subtitles live captioned or taken from the ENPS/TelePrompTer feed? I ask because in the US you see the most delay (and some times dozens of lines of automation codes) when a station takes the TelePrompTer output vs having it transcribed professionally.


The script in ENPS is available to the subtitler - but VTs and live interviews have to be transcribed by an operator 'live'. (These days via ReSpeak but previously stenographically)
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BBC to trial Scottish Six

Rkolsen posted:
Hell I'd settle for the manual of the BNCS.


Ah - that's like asking how long a piece of string is. Depends entirely what you use it for - it's effectively a virtualisation solution for control panels, but a lot more on top...

Not a manual - but this might be of interest : http://atos.net/content/dam/global/your-business/Media/Atos_Media_BNCS_brochure
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BBC to trial Scottish Six

Steve in Pudsey posted:
noggin posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Yes that makes sense. If Scotland take the feed from Studio E via a contribution circuit they a) have to pay for that circuit and b) have to sort something out to make the subtitles work. If they take the Channel output the subtitles just work and there's is no cost.


How does taking the channel output solve a)? There will still need to be a line to get the News Channel output to Scotland won't there?

However AIUI there are 'clean feed' lines from London to the Nations - which can take anything that lands on the Ericsson BBC playout router. I'd expect a number of News lines from NBH to be available on that router - so I suspect that choice is cost neutral?


That's a good point, I was assuming Scotland would have access to all of the networks as a matter of course but I guess that they would have just used the switchable clean feed circuits.


Yes. Glasgow would have permanent BBC One HD and BBC Two network feeds available - as they need them to create BBC One HD and Two Scotland - but there is no reason for the News Channel (or other networks like CBeebies, BBC Four, CBBC or BBC Parliament) to be permanently fed to Glasgow, so it would be just as easy/difficult to route News Channel as it would be to route a different studio output.

(AIUI Coding and Mux for BBC One/Two Scotland SD and HD versions is carried out in the same coding and mux centres as England so no need for networks to be fed for statmuxing purposes)

I suspect subtitles are the reason that the News Channel version is used...
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Virgin Media reveals it's "V6" UHD set top box

Critique posted:
noggin posted:

(There was a long running saga with Macbook Pros and 5GHz WiFi that caused them to fall over - having dual SSIDs made life a lot easier in diagonising that was causing the issue)


Interesting that you say that, as last Christmas when staying with my parents I did notice that my Macbook and the Virgin hub were not co-operating to the point the internet connection was unusable for no reason, but this was the model with the 2.4GHz and 5GHz signals. I can't for the life of me remember what fixed it, but it certainly doesn't happen anymore - I Googled it at the time though and there were loads of complaints about it, but I can't remember seeing a solution.


There was a firmware and/or OS system update on Macbooks that cured it ISTR - but the interim fix was either to switch to the 'other' band (usually 2.4GHz ISTR) or reboot the WiFi access point (in this case the SuperHub) and the Macbook.

Was very annoying...
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BBC to trial Scottish Six

Steve in Pudsey posted:
Yes that makes sense. If Scotland take the feed from Studio E via a contribution circuit they a) have to pay for that circuit and b) have to sort something out to make the subtitles work. If they take the Channel output the subtitles just work and there's is no cost.


How does taking the channel output solve a)? There will still need to be a line to get the News Channel output to Scotland won't there?

However AIUI there are 'clean feed' lines from London to the Nations - which can take anything that lands on the Ericsson BBC playout router. I'd expect a number of News lines from NBH to be available on that router - so I suspect that choice is cost neutral?
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Virgin Media reveals it's "V6" UHD set top box

2.4GHz in my bit of London is close to unusable for anything serious. 5GHz a lot clearer and MUCH faster.
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Virgin Media reveals it's "V6" UHD set top box

Gary McEwan posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
I've just found out there's releasing another Super Hub, but it's looks strikingly similar to the new STB, albeit in white.

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Virgin gave me this last week after my SuperHub 2ac died. The difference with this one is that the 2.4G and 5G networks are combined so you don't need to select either the 2.4G or 5G network from the network list like you have to do with the 2ac.


That's not always a good thing. Sometimes you want to force a device onto 5GHz to ensure it is free from interference. AIUI some ac devices these days use both bands simultaneously to generate higher throughput, and I guess you forego this if the 2.4 and 5GHz bands have different SSIDs.

(There was a long running saga with Macbook Pros and 5GHz WiFi that caused them to fall over - having dual SSIDs made life a lot easier in diagonising that was causing the issue)
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Greatest News Themes of All Time

Spencer For Hire posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
There weren't any small opt outs in the BBC back then - when the East Midlands split it was a fully fledged region in itself.


My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I thought East Midlands had short opts within Midlands Today in the late 80s/early 90s before they launched EMT as a standalone programme.


And iSTR that Jersey had their own opt-outs for the 21.28 news (though not during Spotlight)
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BBC Breakfast

deejay posted:
I think it's an extremely complex display which, to be honest, only actually means anything to professional city workers, stockbrokers etc. Occasionally a graph will be zoomed into (graphs showing massive zig-zags and/or sharp drops or rises are more instantly understandable) but really the data is useful to the business journalists working in the unit, but not much more than that. The other time it's used on screen is for announcements of interest rate decisions and so on - again usually via a correspondent standing by the terminal who can explain what it all means. While having the terminal has a cost, using live data on screen and exporting live data a to your graphics system or website (for example) has a different, much higher cost. Using Bloomberg data in this way is much like subscribing to any newswire agency feed as a source for your news material.

Yes - some financial journalists are former city workers who decided to change careers, so will know how to interpret the data properly.

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And on the earlier point of why business programmes are still made when city workers are all working and have access to the live data anyway, well one reason is that unlike news programmes, a separate business programme (on BBC World News anyway) can be sponsored.


Yes - and there are plenty of 'arm chair' investors in the UK too - which was the intended audience for shows like 'Working Lunch' (RIP)
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BBC to recreate first night of television

Rkolsen posted:
noggin posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
There is a precedent in Look Around You series 2 for shooting fake old material in 4:3 for artistic reasons


There doesn't need to be a 'precedent' - if it's editorially valid, it's editorially valid. You can make stuff black and white, letterbox, pillarbox, add film scratch and sparkle if you like, just like you can add lens flares, grade stuff so it looks like it was shot in the 50s or the 70s etc. There are guidelines - but they aren't proscriptive.

There aren't 'aspect ratio police' you know...


I brought it up because in the US a director for Saturday Night Live's film unit stated in one piece described how NBC wasn't as picky as other networks when it comes to mixed ratio content for new programming when warranted.


I think it depends on the definition of 'new' content, and I also suspect the UK is very different to the US.

In the UK, since we moved to file-based delivery, there is no longer a requirement for a 'Technical Review' of a show in the same way as there was for tape deliveries. For tape deliveries a Tech Review (or Transmission Review) would be a trained online VT editor or similarly technically person watching and listening to the show (on decent speakers and monitor) and checking it was compliant (that sound and vision were within correct limits, that the sound didn't sound distorted, the pictures weren't over exposed, that content was the correct aspect ratio and not stretched, that interlaced content wasn't reverse field-dominance etc.) and that the clocks, line-up etc. were correct. The show would also have been passed through a Harding FPA to check it was safe and free of PSE issues.

Now with file based deliveries (which are soon going to be the only delivery standard in the UK since we adopted an industry-wide standard that is the same for all UK broadcasters), content is automatically checked for compliance technically (though this doesn't include subjective checks in the same way), and an automated PSE check is done. However instead of a trained technician or editor watching the content a producer is allowed to sign off an 'eyeball' check...

That's it.

In the UK most broadcasters request that all material is full-screen UNLESS there is a reason for it not to be. If there's a justified reason to pillarbox or letterbox you can. If it's just a mistake then you'd hope a commissioner from the broadcaster would question it during the editorial discussions around the off-line.
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BBC Breakfast

Rkolsen posted:
VMPhil posted:
Brekkie posted:
Business bulletins during the day have always seemed slightly redundant when the people really interested in stock market figures and exchange rates are likely in work anyway, and getting their data from something much more sophisticated than a brief hourly update on a news channel.

Well you say that, but Bloomberg terminals always remind me of teletext…


http://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/9329/images/bloomberg.JPG


I know the BBC has a Bloomberg Terminal or two but what do they get out of it (aside from $24K/year for a single terminal) that's different from the other news sources? I remember when Business Live was World only they would go to the business newsroom and zoom in on the terminal.

I imagine the Terminal hasn't changed because of a) old financial type that don't want to learn a new system and b) if they change it up / make it more complicated it could cost its subscribers a ton in lost money.


If you want detailed financial information that isn't delayed, and have journalists with the financial skillset to interpret the data, then I suspect having it available is very useful. It lets you do actual journalism, rather than waiting for other people to and then post it on wires?
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X Factor 2016

Juicy Joe posted:
They had better use a new studio setup for the live shows rather than rolling out the same one they've used for the past 7-8 years, otherwise all this good work in these early shows will be put to waste. Anyway, all in all, unbelievable!!! 10/10!!!


This series will be that last where the live shows are shot at Fountain Studios - so it may be they wait until they have found a new home before massively changing the live shows.
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