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Skybox and Router issues

Ne1L C posted:
Hi.

It wasn't the power. It was a dodgy HDMI cable! Shocked I switched it for a SCART and it solved the problem. Very Happy


Though if it's an HD box feeding an HD TV by ditching the HDMI you're now watching everything in SD (SCART is SD only)

This sounds like a problem bigger than a dodgy HDMI cable...
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ITN News Channel

RobB posted:
As ITV are clearly having reservations about prime time news (moving News at Ten to 10.30 for the sake of light entertainment etc) I don't know why they don't set up a news channel to take all their news. A rolling half hourly news programme would offer something slightly different from the sensationalism of Sky News. They could then clear the schedule on ITV for chasing ratings.


Err - I think I know why they don't do that. They want to be on 3 / 103 in the EPG, and be gifted access to a large chunk of the PSB2 Freeview multiplex...

ITV is a public service broadcaster, and have a licence which has public service requirements. One of those is to carry news in prime time, another is to provide a certain level of regional news. In return they get a prime position, protected by law, in the EPGs of all the major platforms AND access to just-under half of one of the three main Freeview public service multiplexes (shared with C4 and C5).

If they ditched News on ITV, they'd be in breach of their licence and lose these.

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If they put such a channel high up in the freeview catalog (e.g takeover channel 6 from ITV2) it should give those news channels languishing on 130, 132 a run for tir money. Hell, they even have a ready made name for such a channel - ITN


I suspect Freeview and Ofcom would have something to say about that.
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

tmorgan96 posted:
Markymark posted:
Rkolsen posted:

It looks nice. Seems like they wanted to mimic Silicon Valley type amenities. A lot of the amenities seem to be useful but it's also likely designed so you won't have to leave campus and spend more time at work. The only thing that's missing is a quick walk in health clinic and pharmacy.


It's useless for parking though. My lad is working there at present, arrives at 05:30hrs to ensure a parking space

Is there ample access via public transport though?


It's not great. Sky run shuttle buses from some main line stations to help with this. It kind of falls between two stools. Too far in to have decent car parking and not far enough in to have comprehensive 24/7 public transport access.
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ITN News Channel

VMPhil posted:
Imagine if they had a weekly programme with the best reports from ITV, 4 and 5 News - I'd certainly watch that.


I guess the issue is that the content is funded by ITV, C4 and C5 respectively, It would - in some ways - be like Endemol Shine running a channel with Pointless, Big Brother, 8 out of Ten Cats, and Grantchester all on it (which are all EndemolShine produced shows for the BBC, C5, C4 and ITV respectively).

ITN is effectively an independent producer for the three channels, in the same way EndemolShine is.

If it wanted to run a news channel of its own and carry content funded and commissioned by other broadcasters, it would need to negotiate either a contract reduction or payment to access that content I'd imagine?
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New Meridian, BBC South & South East Thread

Markymark posted:
Run_Telecine posted:
London Lite posted:
The NC is repeating Southern Rail Crisis at 8.30. No idea which edit they'll use though?


They'd have used the London version, as it'll have been edited in HD.


I'd have thought the same editing facility would have produced all versions ? Just send the finished edits down the the line to TW and So'ton via a downconverter ?


These days material is much more likely to be sent between BBC regional sites in the file domain rather than via real-time line-feed, unless there is a time constraint. Any up- or down-conversion will be handled as part of this process pretty much automatically, though standards conversion is unlikely to be needed as everything will be 50Hz.

Also most BBC English regional sites have HD editing for their Inside Out features shows, as they routinely get a network airing on BBC One HD in England as they rotate which region is networked.

However - for a quick rushes play-out, where time is of the essence, a realtime playout may still be used, particularly for HD content which is likely to be VC-2/Dirac Pro-ed.
Last edited by noggin on 11 January 2017 1:42pm
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NOW TV

DVB Cornwall posted:
It'll be interesting once they crack Red Button services whether they'll extend their offerings to include Red Button content on Sky Sports. Something that's sadly lacking.


I doubt it - I don't think OTT services + Red Button is a 'thing' is it? If the OTT stuff was DVB over IP that would make sense - but I don't think it is.
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NOW TV

jake-watson posted:
MetalGearRex posted:
jake-watson posted:

Hows that going to work without coloured buttons unless now tv plans on releasing a new remote?

The FAQs section mentions about Smart Boxes bundled with a remote that has the star button coloured as red - indicating that they're planning to launch red button services.


I see, still it would probably need green, yellow and blue for navigation purposes. Dont forget green can be used to hide the red button prompt on the BBC channels. It would also need number buttons as well? Or is this soley aimed for the streaming channels, MHEG-IC?


Could be that the RGYB buttons are implemented via an on-screen keypad? That's how Windows Media Center handled it (in addition to supporting optional RC6 remotes with coloured buttons)

Wonder if they'll also implement HbbTV - as I think both Freeview and Freesat are likely to migrate from MHEG to that standard. BBC are already planning to I think.

I've used HbbTV on a couple of different platforms - and the implementations were great. However it does have potential security issues...
Last edited by noggin on 8 January 2017 4:32pm
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International News Presentation: Past and Present

Steve in Pudsey posted:
noggin posted:
ARD certainly weren't the first in Europe to use them if the 1999 date is correct.


I think 1999 refers to when they were superceded by a building move?

Yorkshire had them in 1979, as seen in their Christmas tape choreographed dancing across the studio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMoptafN7zE


That makes a LOT more sense. On further viewing the kit in the gallery looked a LOT older than c.1999 tech...
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

London Lite posted:

Remember, she's not just a presenter, but a journalist for which she is experienced in getting stories from politicians.

To be fair - so are Andrew Marr and Robert Peston. It kind of goes with the territory.
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International News Presentation: Past and Present

WW Update posted:
In 1999, ARD's Tagesschau moved into a new studio. This report includes a look back at the old facility, which featured the first robotic cameras in Europe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7flK1skELY


The BBC were using Radamec (RP2s I think) robotic cameras (*) in N2 far earlier than 1999. In fact they were just taking them out of service then after using them since at least the early-to-mid 90s... ARD certainly weren't the first in Europe to use them if the 1999 date is correct.

It looks like ARD were using Radamec RP2s or similar too.

The BBC ran one studio with robotic cameras (N2) - that could move around the studio floor under remote control. They installed bar codes along the studio walls to allow the laser-based readers to register their position. The other BBC news studios of the time (N1, N3 and TC7) didn't use robotic cameras, just remotes (which had remote PTZ+Elevate heads, but couldn't move around independently)
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

gillw72 posted:
Sophy mentioned her programme would be coming from the glass box for 1 week only. Where will it come from next week -the old SkyNews studio or one of the other new Studios?


I've seen some mention of it going 'out and about'. Not sure if that means there will be a recorded sequence with Sophie (or AN Other) outside the studio, or if they will do a healthy chunk of the shows as full OBs (as Marr and Peston do sometimes)

The box doesn't strike me as a particularly great space for a multi-interview-based Sunday show, though it will contrast with Peston and Marr.
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International News Presentation: Past and Present

Mr Q posted:
noggin posted:
Yep - looks like TV2, which unlike DR (the BBC equivalent in Denmark), has regional news operations (DR doesn't), has expanded TV2 Fyn (the regional news operation for the Fyn region) to do 6 hours a day of rolling news. http://www.tv2fyn.dk/node/57451 Looks like this is approaching its second anniversary?

AIUI, both DR and TV2 are state owned - though the current government does have a plan to sell off TV2 (not the first time this has been on the agenda). DR is funded by a licence fee, while the national TV2 service is run on a commercial basis (so, ads and some subscription revenue). TV2 regions also receive funding from the licence fee - I'm pretty sure they are structurally independent of the national TV2.

I'd also note that while TV2 has regional TV, DR is responsible for regional radio services. There was a suggestion last year (in a government report on different media reform options) that the TV2 regions be transferred to DR, but there is not the political appetite for this.


Quite right - I'd not included a caveat about DR's radio operations in my 'DR doesn't' do regional news stuff.

I wasn't clear how independent the TV2 regions were from HQ (which I think is/was in Odense - though there is a big Copenhagen operation including the TV2 24 hour news channel) - but I suspect they share common tech platforms to interchange material and benefit from procurement savings, shared training etc.