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BBC News: Presenters & Rotas

Worzel posted:
noggin posted:
itsrobert posted:
Having said that - I may be confusing Geeta with her brother Krishnan - I know he definitely presented News 24 during the flags era. In any case, I do recall Geeta being on News 24 occasionally in about 2001, give or take.


Yes - Krishnan co-presented the 1200-1600 News 24 shift with Valerie Sanderson at launch. He quite quickly left for Channel Four News ISTR.


And I think was replaced in that slot by Chris Eakin?


Not initially - Chris was still on Breakfast I think (with Sarah Montague and David Robertson - that was one of the few 7 days a week shifts, not 5, so had 3 regular presenters rather than 2)

Initially Huw Edwards and George Alagiah covered for reasonably lengthy periods ISTR.

From memory :

0600-0900 Breakfast - David, Sarah, Chris
0900-1200 Mornings - Jackie Hardgrave, Ben Geoghegan (Jackie quite often didn't do Fridays - Anastasia Cooke was a regular)
1200-1600 Afternoons - Krishnan, Val
1600-1900 "Drive" - Gavin Esler, Sian Williams (Though not sure a TV station segment can be called 'Drive')
1900-2300? Evening - Matthew Amroliwala OR Kate Garraway (!) (Single headed)
2300-0100 Late evening - Christopher Price

Weekends had Peter Allen, Jane Hill, Sybil Ruscoe, Roger Black, Neil Webb, Gideon Coe, Shahnaz Pakravan and quite a few others.

Sorry - very off topic and I'm not one for a rota thread - but we are approaching the 20th anniversary of launch...
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BBC News: Presenters & Rotas

itsrobert posted:
Having said that - I may be confusing Geeta with her brother Krishnan - I know he definitely presented News 24 during the flags era. In any case, I do recall Geeta being on News 24 occasionally in about 2001, give or take.


Yes - Krishnan co-presented the 1200-1600 News 24 shift with Valerie Sanderson at launch. He quite quickly left for Channel Four News ISTR.
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BBC News: Presenters & Rotas

Critique posted:
Is everyone not getting a bit overexcited? I don't pay attention to rotas but I even I remember the odd faces that have popped up on Newsnight in Summers gone by - I seem to remember Andrew Neil doing one programme last year!


Yep - summer has always been a bit 'musical chairs'. In times gone by Newsnight reporters would sometimes stand in, and more recently Eddie Mair was a regular stand in. Summer is often used as a way of trialling new faces - not always for the programme they are standing in on, but to see their abilities in a wider context. The reality of TV presentation is that the only way of seeing if anyone is any good at it, is to try them out. Off-air screen tests can tell you that someone isn't suitable, but they can't demonstrate that they are...
Critique and London Lite gave kudos
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International News Presentation: Past and Present

Mr Q posted:
WW Update posted:
Austrian news opt-out on Sat.1, produced by Puls4, 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMZtWTl-kCo

I wouldn't normally focus on this, but what strange wardrobe choice for the male presenter. The tie/blazer while wearing jeans and sneakers seems... incongruous. I'm not saying the guy should wear a full suit, but when you're doing stand-up presentation, a coherent outfit from top to bottom is a good idea.

That said, Puls4's studio is definitely better than the virtual disappointment that Sat.1 offers.


Blazer / Jeans / Trainers is not at all unusual as a wardrobe for a news presenter in some parts of Europe. The whole 'formal lounge suit' thing is nowhere near universal. In some areas it would be seen as stuffy, old fashioned and not appropriate for a younger male presenter.
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Freesports

That wasn't the ill-fated NTL/BBC Sport channel was it? NTL bought lots of rights and had studios in Feltham (inherited by Arqiva) but then it all fell apart. The studios and some of the rights ended up being picked up by British Eurosport ISTR...
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New Bake Off line up confirmed

VMPhil posted:
The bigger question is how those viewers have coped with commercial television for the last sixty years.


Well lots of us had VHS machines with FF buttons from the early 80s... From then on we watched BBC shows live and commercial shows were more likely to be timeshifted...
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Sky TV's 30th anniversary in 2019

kernow posted:
ok, but Sky 1 is the same age as Sky News anyway.

Sky One was launched in July 1989. Before that, it was called "Sky Channel" from 1984, and before that it was called "Satellite Television Ltd" from 1982.


Depends on your view.

Would you say the BBC News Channel should celebrate 20 years in November this year, or ignore it since it is no longer called BBC News 24?
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BBC Sport - new graphics (Reith font)

denton posted:
mdtauk posted:
If it is a Northern Ireland trail, it wouldn't be referring to anything other than the NI variations. And wouldn't be seen by anyone other than a NI audience.

But they could have a Northern Ireland logo at the bottom of the screen, and just use the normal BBC logos everywhere else.


For viewers in Northern Ireland the output of BBC One Northern Ireland isn't a variation, it's the channel itself. Likewise, the BBC One Northern Ireland logo is the normal logo for the channel.


Very well said.
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The New ITV & BBC Weather Thread

m_in_m posted:
RDJ posted:
She's just done the national forecast on BBC One.

Alina's Twitter profile is now "presenter and producer for BBC Weather"

Looks like we have one new presenter now. I wonder what training new presenters will receive. Haven't they historically been trained Meteorologists or I undergone specific training with the Met Office?


Until the mid-90s all on-screen BBC Weather people were full Met Office meteorologists (*) and would often be forecasting in an off-screen capacity. The Met Office forecasters also prepared the 'symbol' graphics with the cloud, sun, rain icons on them (these were not created automatically)

In the mid-to-lates 90s, co-inciding roughly with the BBC News 24 launch, the staffing levels of the weather centre increased, and some new forecasters were recruited, alongside a number of weather 'presenters' who didn't have meteorology degrees or similar forecast training, but were properly trained by the Met Office to a decent standard in understanding weather well enough that they could present the weather credibly, un-scripted. Both groups of people were, I believe, Met Office employees - with one of the forecasters also effectively managing the weather centre at the BBC.

(*) Francis Wilson and the Breakfast Time weather was a separate contract and not part of the BBC/Met Office deal - which was always a bit of an oddity.
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BBC Sport - new graphics (Reith font)

Hatton Cross posted:

..so as BBC Sport and BBC Breakfast are based in the same building in Salford - I wonder what their excuse is on that one?


Stuff like that is seldom hampered by lack of geographical location... (i.e. you don't have to be in the same building to co-ordinate changes)

However you do need a budget and some operator-time...
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Sir Bruce Forsyth RIP

Meteor2 posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
As far as I could tell, everything the BBC have used looks like it's come straight from the archives, which I have to give them credit for.



I expect Bruce's work was near the top of the pile to be digitised, and so it's all instantly available to editors. Sadly the BBC's effort to digitise their entire archive was wound up (see the TV Studio history website). Everything else is on videotape with a bit of film -- with a limited lifespan.


Though all the D3 transfers, and the later 1" transfers, will have an uncompressed LTO data tape copy (component but decoded through the best-in-class Transform PAL decoder, which is reversible should a better PAL decode technique be developed) LTO is a commodity 'IT' tape standard - suitable for migration to future digital standards using automated robot tape-handlers.
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International Presentation

Hazimworks posted:

Their previous look in 2001 has these elements: the flower was based on the Japanese floral emblems, color palettes, flat colors, promo/trailers and program menu are based on the grid system. Not forgetting the BBC elements too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzGM6SlcupI


Wasn't there a Lambie-Nairn (or was it Red Bee) involvement in one of the 00's SVT on-screen relaunches?