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Eurovision 2018

Not sure what I make of that. On the face of it he was pretty successful last year (he won a heap of awards, voted by the public) but on the other hand he was very disliked by the majority of Melfest fans and the Swedish tabloids.

The tabloids love to hate Mello. They are best ignored... Just like the red tops here.

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The tabloids were scathing of him, particularly after that show where he went about the green room licking people’s faces.


I thought that was actually quite a funny subverting of the show. Made me laugh - a lot. I think it may have been too ironic for some.

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Likewise the Swedish media were universal in saying the shows had lost their sparkle, with the writing poorer and the skits being unfunny. Even the interval songs were poor.


Yes - the production and writing have been a bit variable in recent years. However last year was nowhere near as bad as the Nour and Anders year.

I think the show is in danger of taking itself too seriously, and people taking it too seriously. Hopefully David will help with that. Gina did that effectively IMO.
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BBC World News | 30th October 2017 Onwards

dvboy posted:
Maybe it’s different for NC but on World News branded bulletins they frequently use the same copy through out the presenters shift. I typically watch in what would be the morning in the U.K. (up to GMT/Impact) and there have been many times I’ve gotten déjà vu. I’ve rewound the bulletins a few times just to confirm my suspicions. The only thing that may change is the the cross talk during interviews.


Presenters for the 1/6/10 write their own copy (as told by Fiona Bruce on The Russell Howard Hour week before last) so it does vary at least at those times, not sure about the rest of the day.


More accurate to say they rewrite scripts already written by production journalists in most cases (including Fiona).

Headlines are often written from scratch by presenters, but not always.
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Eurovision 2018

AxG posted:
Things are happening .......

Melfest 2018 Hosts will be known tomorrow morning.

And that would be David Lindgren.

https://www.svt.se/kultur/medier/melodifestivalens-programledare-2018


Which means we won't have a David Lindgren entry this year I guess Wink
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BBC Breakfast


Ah. In the US most are motion sensored based or with door sensors. I believe they’re also triggered by the front desk - so that when you check in the lights and airconditioning are on when you enter.

I always assumed that the telly, lights etc were just left on from when they last made up the room, but that makes sense.

Not sure how motion door sensors would do the same as a card slot though, and they would have the issue of not charging your phone or laptop too.


I stayed in a hotel in Malta last year, it had the key card thing, but also (and it took me a while to figure out WTF was going on) once you'd switched off all the lights in the room, then the power sockets would also be cut ! It made charging my phone overnight a bit of a challenge. The only item (with a socket) that remained powered was the mini bar, so I angrily pulled that out, and stuffed my phone charger in there. Some of these things really haven't been thought through


That's not at all uncommon. Often the in-room safe will have a permanently powered mains outlet.

However it's why I always ask for two key cards when checking in - so I can leave one in the power-slot when I'm out and need mains power to be supplied. (Alternatively you can use a cheap plastic loyalty card or library card usually - though some with embossed numbers are problematic)

The other reason to have two key cards is to ensure you don't lock your only one in the room and have to do the walk of shame to reception after Breakfast...
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1 or 2

MY83 posted:
This is an advantage to using an Android TV box (whether it is running Android TV OS or Android Tablet/Phone OS builds) as you can run a VPN client and the App on the same device. (Though Android TV OS VPN apps are less common and may need side loading / launching - whereas a TV box running Tablet Android OS will allow them to be installed more easily. The advantage of Android TV - the OS - is that it is optimised for remote control operation)

(Some mobile apps are now using GPS location data in phones and tablets to geo-block rather than IP address to circumvent this)


What's the output quality like now on Tablet/Phone versions of Netflix? I remember a lot of sideloaded Netflix users complaining about a low-quality output, especially when seen on a big screen. (I don't use it so I don't know.)

I know when I tried to sideload VMAnywhere onto an Android box it failed miserably because it runs in portrait mode and the box output everything in landscape. That's before I got anywhere near the HDMI output issue.


Unless the box is specifically Netflix approved you won't get 2160p streams - whatever the OS. nVidia Shield TV does 2160p HDR Netflix (and Amazon) and uses Android TV as the OS. They do 5.1 DD/DD+ with no problem. Basically this is the Rolls Royce of Android TV.

Wetek boxes are / were Netflix approved and largely do 1080p stuff - though have at some points done 2160p - and at one point there was an Android TV ROM for them (Their standard image is Android Tablet/Phone but with a nice Android TV style launcher). Similarly the audio is often 2.0 - but DD/DD+ has appeared at times. It's all a bit less guaranteed than the nVidia Shield TV, but is / was officially Netflix supported.

Until recently you were stuck at 480p streams on almost all non-approved boxes, but some with the right Widevine support (historically not enough for Netflix) are doing 1080p. It's probably not via an approved route (just as Netflix within LibreElec via a Chrome DRM hack isn't) so it is definitely not guaranteed to last.

As for Netflix on actual Android tablets/phones - again it depends on Netflix approval as well as the right Widevine support. Mainstream suppliers like Samsung will have decent 1080p support - no-name suppliers will be trickier.
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1 or 2


There used to be before Netflix launched in every country bar Syria, North Korea and Iran which coincided with Netflix cracking down on people using VPN's and Smart DNS to access other Netflix regions, which has been largely successful.


There are still significant differences between Netflix US and Netflix UK when it comes to acquired content (Netflix original content is largely the same everywhere I believe).

Your Netflix subscription works globally - and isn't geo-tied - it's just your actual IP address when you connect that defines what you watch. So if you are on holiday or business abroad you can log in to Netflix but will see the line-up appropriate to the country you are in - not your home country.

Assuming Netflix haven't blocked the VPN you use (they do actively block popular providers now I believe) then you can access the US line-up from a UK subscription on a UK-based device accessing the internet via a US IP address over a VPN.

This is an advantage to using an Android TV box (whether it is running Android TV OS or Android Tablet/Phone OS builds) as you can run a VPN client and the App on the same device. (Though Android TV OS VPN apps are less common and may need side loading / launching - whereas a TV box running Tablet Android OS will allow them to be installed more easily. The advantage of Android TV - the OS - is that it is optimised for remote control operation)

(Some mobile apps are now using GPS location data in phones and tablets to geo-block rather than IP address to circumvent this)
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Early days of NICAM Stereo

Still, a badly interpolated picture on some shows looks better than the film effect that's been slapped on them in my opinion.


Very few shows now have a 'film effect slapped on them' - as it's against the UK wide tech standards to convert 50i to 25p in post. Almost al 'film look' shows shot in HD will have been shot 25p intentionally from the outset, rather than having something 'slapped on them'.

And I've yet to see any 50i->25p->50p process that is in any way watchable at a consumer price point. At least the 50i->25p will have hopefully been done to a reasonable quality... I've yet to see a 25p->50p conversion in a telly that is.
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Inconsistencies with re-branding?

There is also lots of debate about whether SCAR is the role and MCR2 the location...
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Early days of NICAM Stereo

But what's the point? Why would you want to? It's a bit like colourising B&W films, or MotionFlow type interpolation on TVs. Just don't see the point.


Well, motionflow helps negate the current obsession with sticking a film effect on everything and anything regardless of whether it should be there or looks good.


Yes - I find it hilarious that manufacturers are fighting production trends - but I've yet to see a frame interpolation system at a consumer price point that is in any way watchable. The artefacts are hilariously bad when they go wrong - and it doesn't remove the temporal aliasing artefacts...

Wagon Wheels don't stop going backwards, they just go backwards more smoothly...
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

The BBC does not need to occupy three floors of prime retail space in a city centre when there are cheaper alternatives.


The legacy of the 'city centre' relocation strategy that moved Pebble Mill to The Mailbox... Cambridge was one of the only relocations that made sense IMHO.
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BBC axe Crimewatch


Do you think there is going to be a News at 10 on BBC One or ITV for all of time? really?


I think the main news bulletins will stay on the main channels for as long as they exist as muti-genre linear channels. That will certainly end at some point, and whether they will still produce a news programme as such I don't know


Yep - totally agree. Whilst the main linear channels are still achieving ratings of 10m for peak shows, news shows scheduled close to them also rate very highly.

The audience share a main-channel bulletin reaches is still an order of magnitude higher than output on a dedicated news channel.

I suspect whilst multi-genre linear channels remain - news will be part of their output. If anything the 24 hour channels are more at risk from online consumption, as they rate far lower than the bulletins.

The big erosion of the 'main' terrestrials is really the fragmentation of the audience to multichannel linear. OTT and other online stuff is beginning make an impact - but it's still relatively minor.
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UTV rebrand

One thing I've noticed on the local announcements on ITV Wales is that the English announcers often say "Cymru Wales" in a Welsh accent.


Why wouldn't you say Cymru in the accent of the language in the same way that you would if speaking French or German?


And is it accent or pronunciation ? I pronounce Welsh words reasonably correctly, but definitely have an English accent I'm sure.