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Broadcasting House, Salford Quays & TVC

The new Albert Square has been started (at last) with a completion date of late 2019 early 2020.


Time to repost a snip of one of the sections from the planning application that gives a view on what the new Albert Square will look like. Perhaps this is why they are ramping up storylines about development in Walford...

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Are some of the upper floors of the new buildings used as stages for the show or could they be used for production offices.


Historically a large number of the backlot properties were just shallow 'frontage' - with no practical interiors at all, other than enough to allow a front door to open realistically. This was certainly the case for the houses on Albert Square. Most of the EastEnders interiors are shot separately in a studio with removable flattage to allow for more flexible lighting (so you shoot three wall a lot of the time, rather than four wall) and use decent Fisher booms for sound rather than personal mics or poles.

There are exceptions - like the Minute Mart shop and the Chippy, which have practical interiors. The new lot design - which is currently under construction - looks to have more actual interior space, but it doesn't look that practical for day-to-day production usage, and given that there is no major shortage of office space on the BBC Elstree site AFAIK I don't see the need for that.
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NOW TV

What I've noticed with some programmes on VOD and even some live channels occasionally is that on my Smart Box, you get motion judder, yet on the Chromecast, it's perfect.


Is this on top of the baked-in judder that happens on 50Hz content that is being streamed at 25Hz? (AIUI NowTV doesn't offer 50p steams like iPlayer does yet?)

You won't see 50->25 judder on 25Hz native (or 24->25Hz sped up) content (drama, documentary, movies), but on native 50Hz content (sport, entertainment, news) you will see the 50->25 halving of temporal resolution.
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NOW TV

It's set to 50 Hz.


If the PBS app - like Netflix and Amazon - is casting 24p content at 24p and 29.97p content at 29.97p, and the Chromecast is outputting this at 50p, then you'll see horrid judder. If it is 24p native you'll get 3:2 judder if you set the output to 60p.

If the PBS content has already been converted to 50/25p - then it could be the conversion has been done badly (particularly if it's a conversion for VOD rather than broadcast).
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Children In Need 2017

It was notable in the bit about Chris Evans’ charity auctions that Evans did not appear in vision, whilst there were shots of the control room and phone team.

Which begs the question... has Evans appeared on any telly at all since the final Top Gear that he did in 2016? I don’t think he’s presented any telly since then, but has he gone into exile completely, refusing to appear on camera at all?! (Much like Steve Wright, I believe)


Chris Evans has historically not been part of the Friday Children in Need shows to any significant degree. He didn't ever present the One Show pre-shows when he was the regular Friday One Show presenter ISTR.
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NOW TV

Ooh now there's an idea I have Chromecast and NowTV app.

Edit still doing it, guess its the file.


Is your Chromecast in 50 or 60Hz mode? Neither will be great for 24p content mind...
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The Sport Thread

JAS84 posted:
They should just treat Ireland the same as France, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc. They have the same currency after all.


Sadly they aren't in the same rights region... UK+Ireland is an accepted and long-standing rights bloc. Pretty much anything the BBC makes has to have UK+Ireland rights because of overspill from the UK into the Republic (and the availability of BBC channels on Sky in Ireland, or FTA) for example. Eurosport is another example.

Reality is that Ireland is currently lumped with the UK for most deals. Don't see that changing. The currency is kind of irrelevant.
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NOW TV

It's not on Netflix, others of his are though, it was my first port of call to go watch streaming. Amazon it's part of PBS America's on demand service at £3.49 a month.


Ah - if that is independent of Sky, then it could well be US-provided and thus 24p not 25/50p.

Does the subscription work on other platforms that do have manual/automatic refresh rate switching?
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Shot In the Dark - new tv news cameraman series.

Interesting that in the UK 'stringer' is more used to describe journalists in general, rather than specifically TV journalists (or VJ/self-shooters)

The term is often used here if a journalist is partially supported, but not directly employed. The World Service has, or had, a large network of stringers across the globe I believe, in addition to their staff journalists.

(Wonder if the Netflix series was inspired by the movie, Nightcrawler)
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South West England & CI Thread

Not sure if best place.
7 Sunrise linking up to Bristol studios for an interview this evening.

Not that unusual, every BBC centre has some form of 'down-the-line' facility for doing interviews and these are used by broadcasters around the world.

If there's a guest in the UK and they're not near London then one of these is really the only choice if a broadcaster wants a 2-way that's not on Skype or similar. Most of the population are near to a BBC radio or TV studio of some type


Yes - and when ITN and ITV were more separate you would sometimes see interviews on ITN's Channel Four News done from a BBC regional studio rather than an ITV regional studio in the same town, as there was less politics involved!
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Broadcasting House, Salford Quays & TVC


There has been a considerable delay to the scheme, not to mention changes of mind from senior management over the site. It would appear that a decision has finally been made to stay at Elstree... that's jinxed it!


But not until they have formally opened the new set...
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NOW TV

If it's on a Sky branded outlet I wouldn't expect them to be 24/60 - I'd expect them to be the same frame rate they would play on Sky, i.e. 25/50Hz - as I think the NowTV OTT stuff is sourced the same way as Sky+HD VOD stuff.

(24->25 via a speed-up, others either via a DEFT or a Frame interpolation to 50Hz)

I have seen some horrific frame rate conversion - since file based delivery has become the norm, rather than tape, though...

If it's on another OTT platform (like Amazon or Netflix, then I'd expect US stuff to be 24p or 29.97p). Didn't think they were available on NowTV boxes though?
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Children In Need 2017

Maybe it is time for the regions to come back to the front. I remember the time when Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales would have their own dedicated hosts for the night, and they would have a lot of local input from 7.00pm-1.00am with them going back to the network for key sketches and routines only. Maybe we need this back?

As I said a few posts ago, didn't everyone always complain about that? They messed round so much, timeshifting and playing back bits later on out of context, putting 3rd rate local entertainers on instead of big stars etc


Yep - widely slated by many viewers in the nations as they felt they were getting a second rate show. Also felt like wasteful duplication and dilution of fund-raising effort.