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20 years of the BBC News Channel (BBC News 24)

VMPhil posted:


Here are the two screenshots I posted showing the Interactive and UK Today versions of the same graphics:

VMPhil posted:

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Yep - that 'look' was used for a couple of brands on the channel - even though the shows had little in common. I don't think that UK Today was originally called UK Today though - pretty sure it was Active UK initially (though the re-name to UK Today may have happened sooner than I thought).
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EastEnders

Asa posted:
Tonight's was the first of the John Yorke episodes with him in the credits as "Executive Consultant" - do they not have an Exec Producer anymore then? Also a subtle but clearly deliberate change as Julie Smith & Tony Holland get the final long credit hold.


Could be they have yet to appoint a new Exec Prod, so John Yorke is 'acting Exec' but not assuming the full role?
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The Sport Thread

Neil Jones posted:
I presume the shots from the F1 on board cameras get sent to collection points at various locations around the track and then onto the broadcast compound?


I think they use a COFDM based system - a bit like Freeview - these days, but in a different frequency range. RF systems like this let you receive the transmissions on multiple aerials (and in some cases receivers) around the track to improve quality and coverage.

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Previously they used to have a lot of trouble getting a picture out of the cameras when the cars went underneath a building at Monaco, and I seem to remember reading somewhere they used to be sent to the helicopter which acted as a mini satellite receiver?


That was quite a while ago - and wasn't anything to do with satellite. It was just using line-of-sight microwave transmission from the car to the helicopter (or plane), which then re-transmitted them back down to the ground. This removed the need for aerials (and possibly receivers) to be rigged around the track, but meant you lost on-boards in tunnels, or if the weather conditions grounded the mid-point aircraft.
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BBC Breakfast

Steve in Pudsey posted:
I think I know the answer to this, but...

Didn't Studio V got a new gallery when the One Show took over, with the existing gallery being retained by BBC London (albeit re-equipped with Mozart) for use with Studio D?

I don't suppose they would have left wallboxes etc in V that were connected to D's gallery, such that with a bit of replugging that studio floor could be used with D's news gallery?

I can't think why they would have done that, but you never know.


The original BBC London studio was a very temporary build in what was going to be the BBC Shop.

When The One Show moved in the whole space was re-designed and the temporary structure that BBC London's studio was built within was entirely removed, and the studio expanded to use as much of the available space as possible (as well as a small isolated 'apps bay' area to house all the noisy equipment needed within the studio.

It wasn't a case of The One Show moving into a studio space that already existed, the new studio was a total 'start from scratch' build. The space was taken back to the bare building and new walls, floor and lighting grid put in. No connectivity infrastructure was retained, mainly because none of it connected back to anywhere that useful.

BBC London retained their existing gallery space (though it was re-engineered), with The One Show building a new gallery, working in a conventional manner with 'industry standard' equipment.
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20 years of the BBC News Channel (BBC News 24)

VMPhil posted:
Hi noggin, do you know more about 'Interactive'? I was asking about it earlier in this thread as it seemed to share the same opening titles as UK Today. Sounds as though it wasn't at all similar then?


Pretty certain that UK Today was originally called Active UK (change of name to UK Today came either in, or a bit before, Nov '98 when News 24 moved from N9 to N8 and started generating BBC One England DSat and DTT regional News content at 1330/1830) - I wonder if the 'Active' bit of the original name is causing some confusion? (There was originally an 'Active World' equivalent in a different back half)

From memory some of the daytime stings - like Active World, Active UK and the Science strand were very short... Kind of just like an explosive fuse 'fizzle'.

Interactive was the evening phone in show (from hazy memory).
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South West England & CI Thread

Markymark posted:
noggin posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
Or it's the same variant that the south gets, but they get a different service table?


I suspect they'd still Null Packet out the ITV HD PIDs to avoid reception using DIY solutions (like a PC with a DVB-T2 stick that lets you manually force VID and AID PIDs)


I've been given chapter and verse, it's the PSB3 London HD mux, with ITV HD Null Packeted


Hurrah - my guess was somewhere close to being right Smile
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20 years of the BBC News Channel (BBC News 24)

Gareth E posted:
cityprod posted:
thegeek posted:
I took this screengrab on Thursday afternoon, but then got side-tracked by work and forgot about it until now. This was from one of the archive headline sequences, showing Chris Eakin and Maxine Mahwinney in N9, the soft set opposite, and - my favourite bit - a sport or weather presenter caught mid-yawn on the wall monitor Smile

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Which programmes actually used that soft set? I only remember Zero 30 using it, but was that the only programme to use it?


IIRC Weekend 24 made use of it on Saturday mornings, back in the days when it was simulcast on BBC Two at 8am.


Europe Direct used to come from the sofa set, as did some of the afternoon sequences (Active World, Active UK etc.) when they went single-headed for the back-half hours, or when there was a strand programme like the science stuff they used to do in the mornings. I'm trying to remember if the phone-in show 'Interactive' also came from the sofa?

If a business presenter had an interviewee then often business would come from the sofa set too.
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BBC Breakfast

Newsroom posted:
I'd move Victoria to the ONE studio and Breakfast into studio B. #2018wishes


I doubt News would want to spend money hiring a non-News studio. (And as mentioned elsewhere I doubt the owners of The One Show studio would want it compromised by having a lot of News-only equipment installed just for Derbyshire)

The One Show studio is a bit of an anomaly in the BBC - it is neither owned or operated by BBC News, BBC Sport or BBC Studioworks... It is the only studio in W1A that uses conventional, industry-standard equipment which freelance crew are fully able to operate (as BBC Sport also use in Salford) rather than systems optimised for automated news production which require staff to operate (as they aren't really in use elsewhere in the industry in the UK).
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Winter Olympics 2018

dosxuk posted:

Notably, one of the normal missing parts is sailing, with only about ¼ of the races broadcast (more have PSC highlights edited up daily), and the Beeb took advantage of the British interest and that they were the host broadcasters for OBS to take parts of some of the other races live to go along side the OBS coverage. (In Rio they only had a (voice only) reporter and a graphics feed from those other races)


Yep - also notable because I believe the BBC Sport Olympics coverage of the sailing was the one bit of non-OBS coverage that was an indie not in-house I believe? I think Sunset and Vine produced it?
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Winter Olympics 2018

Hatton Cross posted:
Good point Brekkie about Eurosport.

During the Olympics minus their on-line streams, in the UK, you'll have the BBC (+1RB) and Eurosport 1&2 (via Dsat) so 4 channels and err that's it. So the chances of Eurosport 1 and BBC 1/2 showing exactly the same events at the same time, will be fairly high.


For the Winters this may well be the case in the UK. I wouldn't assume anything about what Discovery/Eurosport do for the Summer games - either in the UK or across Europe...

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Unless as part of the sell on deal to the BBC there is some 'non competition clause' meaning the BBC can't show what Eurosport 1 UK feed and vis versa, but for a Team GB Gold medal chance, that would look bad for both broadcasters.


Don't believe that to be the case, I think the BBC can show anything they like live on their streams. Not sure about the precise rules for highlights.
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BBC Breakfast

Jay Lee posted:
I can't envisage the BBC doing a volte-face on BBC Breakfast any time soon for all the reasons mentioned above. It's still leading in the ratings (even if Good Morning Britain has gained some traction)


The GMB gains are still minor. Lot of hot air from Piers, but when was the last time they got 1.5m?
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Winter Olympics 2018

UKnews posted:
noggin posted:

I think the lack of being able to watch the events you want to watch, uninterrupted will be significant, as no doubt both TV and Digital streams will be editorially driven and skewed to 'big hitters', with minor competitors in minor sports participation, or full coverage of events without interruption, only available via a Discovery/Eurosport subscriptions.

Given that Red Button streams were getting healthy viewing figures in the BARB ratings during 2012 - I think the public were very aware of them.

No arguments with any of that - it will be a loss. The majority of viewers will still get what they’ve been watching but some will miss out. I wish it wasn’t that way. What I’m querying is what the BBC could have done differently given it was a done deal and comparing to what other countries FTA broadcasters have ended up with.


I wouldn't quibble either. The BBC have got a much better deal than many public service broadcasters in Europe.