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New Meridian, BBC South & South East Thread

Hmm seems to be a misture of HD and SD reporting on MT...about time it was 100% HD by now. Watching Aussie TV I see all reports are fully HD...


Well I'd hope so - as Australia went with an HD system in 2001 when they introduced DVB-T (just as the US did with their ATSC standard in the late 90s), when we went with SD 16:9 in 1998... They've had a bit of a head start on us. (*)

(*) Yes - I know it's more complicated than this because of some, quite frankly, bizarre Aussie regulatory rules (and the 576/50p anomaly)
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The Sport Thread

What’s the idea behind having 45 minutes of snooker on BBC One before it moves to BBC Two for the rest of the afternoon because of the rugby? Will more people continue to watch on BBC Two from BBC One than if it had just been on BBC Two in the first place?


More people will watch on BBC One than BBC Two - so the first 45 mins will likely rate higher than they would have done on BBC Two. I suspect there's a reasonable switch-over for non-Rugby watchers too.
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle engaged.

BM11 posted:
I got the impression the interview took place during the afternoon after the announcement?

It was. They couldn't pre record it before the announcement in case something delayed the announcement for a few days.


Ok. I was under the impression that it was recorded earlier. From the bits I’ve see on US tv and the World News replay (I was in and out) it seemed like it could be one of those things that you could interview within a week. I would thought setting aside time for an interview would be difficult - with so much to do.


Definitely an on-the-day interview. Those are the kind of interviews that you don't record in advance of a such a sensitive announcement (These days at least).
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BBC Scotland thread


I would hope that premium Scottish programming wouldn't be removed from BBC One Scotland. The UK has an established tradition of going to BBC One for the biggest shows, and putting the bigger ones on BBC Scotland would by default decimate their audiences.


As would making them only available in SD on linear outlets - IF BBC Scotland is SD-only.
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

If you're using the majority of Android streaming boxes, they're Android only. The Nvidia Shield is probably the Rolls Royce of Android TV streamers. It also has Chromecast support, so you can stream All4 that way instead.

https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/shield-tv/


The only advantage to Apple TV 4K, is that it offers 4K movies for the normal price. Does anyone know if this Nvida device does the same?


The nVidia device doesn't have an nVidia streaming service - so it would be using standard Android TV services like Google Play Movies, Amazon etc. to purchase movies, and their pricing structures will apply.

The Apple TV 4K has a few more advantages :

1. Dolby Vision as well as HDR10 support
2. Frame Rate switching based on content metadata frame rate with the forthcoming tvOS update, (Which will also include HDR/SDR switching too)

At the moment very few devices offer automatic refresh rate switching. Either they run at a fixed frame rate, or you have to manually switch in System Settings or by using external apps like TVHZ.

Netflix has 23.976, 25 and 29.97Hz content, iPlayer has 25 and 50Hz, the other UK catch up services are 25Hz, Amazon Prime is mainly 23.976Hz - so you want dynamic 23.976, 50 and 59.94Hz output switching.

AIUI the new FireTV 4K is supposed to do this too - but is not without issues.

The nVidia Shield apps don't use refresh rate switching (though SPMC and Kodi will if they are installed)

Once Amazon Prime is also on the Apple TV 4K - if it is HDR - then it will definitely be one of the best solutions out there in video quality and ease of use terms. The UIs on some of the TV apps are beautiful on the Apple TV too. The Danish DR TV app is gorgeous.

It should also run a fork of Kodi called MrMC from the iTunes Store. This doesn't allow Python-based add ons (that is in breach of the Apple iTunes store rules) but does include binary PVR add-ons. (You should also be able to side load a full Kodi if you are up to that level of hackery - though without the USB Type-C port you will have to use Xcode over WiFi to do so)
UKnews, Whitnall and London Lite gave kudos
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Russia Today


The BBC is fiercely independent of government control, and is not in anyway controlled directly by Westminster or Number 10. The only major areas of influence from the government are discussions about which language services the BBC World Service should operate.

The way it was put to me - before the World Service was funded by the license fee - was that the Government decided where the World Service should broadcast (so that includes in what languages) but not what it should broadcast. Its the last bit that is crucial in this discussion but is the bit that those seeking to bracket the BBC in with Press TV or RT wilfully misrepresent so as to try and paint them as two sides of the same coin.


That is indeed the fundamental difference. RT and Press TV are editorially controlled by the Russian and Iranian governments. the BBC World Service (and BBC News in general) really isn't. It's a crucial difference which RT and Press TV always try and bat away.

Now that the bulk of the World Service language services are not directly funded by government either - it's even more distanced from Whitehall and Westminster. (World 2020 stuff is being funded by the FCO I believe though)

Successive UK Governments have upheld the idea that the BBC working independently and ethically, in a free and impartial manner, is a very strong message that signals British values to the world.
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Russia Today



RT is state controlled, World Service was state funded. They are not the same...


Funny how Max Keiser on RT though said here on his show, The Keiser Report that he retired his BBC show, The Oracle because he was told by an executive that the BBC has an unoffical pro-Israel stance and mentioning the nation wasn't allowed.

Max Keiser Talks About The BBC's Stance on Israel

The Max Keiser stuff - if true - strikes me as the BBC wanting to ensure that Israel/Palestine, which is a hugely complex and tricky area to report was reported properly and not editorialised in a personal manner. Far more likely that the BBC didn't trust him to handle it properly - but didn't want to tell him that to his face...

You can have 'authored' coverage of some stuff - but there are some areas that really need to be left to the experts in the region and handled incredibly carefully.
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Now I haven't looked into this much and although I have watched his show for quite a few years, this could just be another conspiracy...or not.

I don't think RT is as tainted with state propaganda as some people like to believe but at the same time I don't think BBC is as 'unbiased' as people even not from the West claim it is.


RT is basically a pro-Kremlin propaganda machine. Their reporters in the field have zero freedom to report objectively - they are told the Kremlin line and stick to it.

I remember a BBC reporter covering the MH17 story - where Russia was widely believed to have shot down a Malaysian Airlines flight over Ukraine. The BBC and RT both had reporters on site. The RT reporter couldn't believe the BBC reporter just went on-air live without being told what to say by the team back in London. The RT reporter had to be told exactly what the Moscow line was before he could go live, so he didn't report facts that would contradict it... They should be bracketed with 'Press TV' in their commitment to fair and unbiased reporting.

The BBC is fiercely independent of government control, and is not in anyway controlled directly by Westminster or Number 10. The only major areas of influence from the government are discussions about which language services the BBC World Service should operate.
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The Freeview Thread

Long shot but does anyone else get interference with HD channels when a helicopter goes past?


That's almost certainly multipath reflections from the helicopter causing interference. We used to get ghosting on analogue when light aircraft flew near to our house (we lived close to an airfield)

It's basically the same principles as RADAR...
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

If you're using the majority of Android streaming boxes, they're Android only. The Nvidia Shield is probably the Rolls Royce of Android TV streamers. It also has Chromecast support, so you can stream All4 that way instead.

https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/shield-tv/


Yep - I've got one. Not perfect - but very useable - and HDR UHD support is very good. All4 is dismal quality via Chromecast - or any other route (other than the Sky VoD - which is limited to stuff broadcast on a linear channel)
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BBC Studios and BBC Worldwide to merge.

Could this in theory expose "BBC Studios" to a commercial takeover at some point, though bet if it was ever sold the money would end up in the treasury rather than with the BBC.


Wouldn't there have to be a share release for that ? How do you take over a company that is wholly owned by the BBC and not part of a public share release?
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

(it's not on Android TV either unless you have YouView)


I have it on my old one. It still works.


Android TV - or Android?

From memory All4 is only available as an Android app, not an Android TV one. If you have an Android TV with YouView, you will get All4 though.

It's a moot point though - the picture quality is dire...
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

We're supposed to be getting ITV and Amazon, Channel 4 are continuing to dismiss the platform.


From what I hear Apple TV is still a tiny player in the UK Catch Up TV stakes - though tvOS and iOS having some similar development paths does ease things a bit.

All4 really is the poor relation of catch up services though. Dismal picture quality, and fewer platforms (it's not on Android TV either unless you have YouView)