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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

Don't think ITV Hub or All4 are 50Hz on any streaming platform. I think iPlayer is the exception with their 720p50 outlets (and soon 2160p25 Blue Planet II stuff - that also included mention of 1080p50 and 2160p50 profiles in the future)


This means that ITV 50Hz native shows - like Corrie, Emmerdale, X factor, sport etc. will all be 25p and display at half the temporal resolution of their original broadcast, unlike iPlayer.
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This Morning

gottago posted:
They will eventually move back to the South Bank but it won’t be returning to studio 8, there’ll be a new custom built studio for it in the new ITV offices.


Ah - I hadn't seen that announcement. I knew that there were new studios being built for the other 'studio' shows (GMB, Lorraine, Loose Women) but didn't know that they'd announced This Morning was relocating too.
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BBC iPlayer - Blue Planet II in 4K UHD

Given that the BBC HD iPlayer stuff is 720p50 at around 5.3Mbs - which is very much at the high-end of the scale for 720p streaming services, I suspect the Blue Planet II UHD HDR stuff will be similar in quality to Netflix's UHD HDR streaming levels (they have a couple of bitrates maxing out at around 15Mbs)

If it is anything like the UHD HDR Blu-ray of Planet Earth II, it will be well worth watching if you have an HDR TV that supports HDR iPlayer.
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Anglia/East of England News Discussion

Charlie Wells posted:
I think the bigger issue is perhaps the barco(?) monitors on the back wall, which particularly in Norwich don't look too good. Ideally they would benefit from being replaced, though limited budgets probably prevents this.


Doesn't Norwich just have two projectors, one each side, with the back wall being the standard English Regions 'Lightbox + twinkling lights' fake newsroom printed backdrop? (i.e. the backdrop is just a bit of set, rather than a video device?). There are some vertical-only seams in the acrylic panels in front (as acrylic comes in fixed sizes) with the diffusions frosting design on it.

Certainly no "Barco" wall in the accepted sense (which is a grid of smaller DLP projector cubes making up a larger screen with visible 'seams')

(Barco actually make a range of projector, LED-matrix etc. products, but because the BBC News studios in the mid-00s to early-10s had a wall of Barco cubes, 'Barco' has become shorthand here for a projector cube wall)
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

DVB Cornwall posted:
The former, seems the handshake between the source and ATV4K to identify what type of content is being offered is on some content taking time. The ATV4K then accepts the content and it plays. If this involves an output change then I get the dynamic flash on my Sony Android whilst that resynchs. Messy and I feel that, taking iPlayer content as an example, that the output appears slightly softer than it was with tvOS 11.1 too.


Ah - I thought the flagging of frame rate and dynamic range needed to be flagged externally by metadata, not by decoding the video and trying to work out what is going on inside it from the file or GOP headers (so it doesn't require DRM decode for the initial phase).

Wonder what the change in perceived resolution is about - I guess if you aren't watching at 720p then there will be a scaling process and they may have changed that as well?
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There's some chatter that some apps have now stopped working too, although I've not come across any. Presumably the initial handshake is failing to respond correctly.


The changes only work if you use Apple's internal video player app rather than implementing your own - unless you've been able to rewrite your own player (I thin). It's also optional (i.e. you can inhibit dynamic range / frame rate changes if your video is running in a window etc.)
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Sounds Like Friday Night

Markymark posted:

Does it matter that silicon and silicone are regularly mixed up in printed and verbal form ?


It does if you study semiconductor physics...
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

DVB Cornwall posted:
Just updated, a few quick tests reveal that it takes a noticeable time to adjust the output of the device to match the source and framerate of the content. A little annoying but will be bearable once it becomes the norm.


Is that the Apple TV 4K taking longer than other devices that change frame rate dynamically - or just the normal second or two that most TVs take to re-sync on an input format change (black screen, OSD flash etc.)?
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Fraggle Rock episodes recovered

TIGHazard posted:
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We were friends of Victor Pemberton for many years until he died in August this year. Victor produced the 4th Series of Fraggle Rock and we have many master VHS of various episodes taken at the time of recording the show.


Probably not VHS tapes themselves. To many people the letters VHS were interchangeable with the word tape. It could be Betacam or whatever format the show was actually recorded on.


Or could well just be VHSs of the master tapes (rather than off-air recordings)

It used to be routine for production team to be given VHS copies of TX masters pre-TX, and many people kept them. It was less routine (though not unheard of) for a broadcast copy to be given to a producer (both for cost reasons and because most producers didn't have 1" or 2" VTRs at home). Beta SP dubs became a bit more widespread, as did DigiBeta. Now keeping a copy of the AS11 DPP TX Master file is trivial - though ensuring it survives for future generations is an interesting discussion to have.
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Fraggle Rock episodes recovered

623058 posted:
A there dont own the rights to UK fraggle rock so there can't make money off it. http://www.nightshade.org.uk/fraggleuk.html There is only one UK episode missing but again what the point? what is the end goal?


Archive preservation is of itself a valuable goal.
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BBC Breakfast

DarthSidious posted:
noggin posted:
flaziola posted:
Regarding what to do with Derbyshire should Breakfast return to London. How about sending Derbyshire the other way and let her work from Manchester.


Is there a single shred of a suggestion that Breakfast is going to relocate to London anytime soon? Why the pointless speculation?

(And where would you make Derbyshire in Salford? The BBC don't have any studios suitable for that style of programme there, and are hardly likely to hire out from Dock10...)


I’m not suggesting the move should happen but I could see Derbyshire working in the current BBC Breakfast studio.


Would be a challenge to do some of their larger 'multiple cafe table + bar stool' discussions in a studio that small.
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South West England & CI Thread

Markymark posted:
TVEngineer posted:
Markymark posted:

If Chiswick is involved, then implementing an HD version of it should be easy, or at the very least providing an HD version to the islands (Meridian Kent HD for instance ?) which hasn't happened yet.

That's what makes me think Channel are still doing local pres, in their new building. It's not that complicated
if they are, I suspect a similar operation to a BBC English region, using the news studio gallery and servers for the pres facility too ?



Chiswick are indeed involved. Wales moved north to allow Chiswick to add Channel to their regional opt play-out . All regional chains are now fully HD and downscaled for SD purposes as I understand it.


So what's stopping Channel HD from appearing on the CI version of PSB 3 then, presumably the cost of emission coding it by ATOS ?


Do ATOS still do the emission coding? I know a lot of the former Siemens/ATOS stuff has been brought back in-house - but don't know for sure about coding and mux. (CAA/CAR/SatOps is now back in-house and part of a team that also includes 'SCAR' and the 'London Control Room' Radio switching operation I believe)
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BBC Breakfast

flaziola posted:
Regarding what to do with Derbyshire should Breakfast return to London. How about sending Derbyshire the other way and let her work from Manchester.


Is there a single shred of a suggestion that Breakfast is going to relocate to London anytime soon? Why the pointless speculation?

(And where would you make Derbyshire in Salford? The BBC don't have any studios suitable for that style of programme there, and are hardly likely to hire out from Dock10...)
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