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This Morning

nodnirG kraM posted:
noggin posted:
I suspect Riverside will be a lot more flexible, but they have to factor in not working 100% as a TV Studio operation don't they? ISTR that they have to operate as an Arts Venue to as part of the covenant (or similar) on their land

Yes I believe it was one of the conditions of the redevelopment - which smacks me as rendering it almost useless as a credible hub for television production. To me it's the equivalent of running a broadcast operation from the local civic theatre.


This isn't new though is it? Riverside has been running this way since it re-opened as a TV operation. It still allowed them to be a successful home for TFI Friday (though this was before they had a gallery and used a BBC Resources OB truck), SM:TV Live - or was it CD:UK? (when they left TLS), The Apprentice - You're Fired etc.
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Eurovision 2018

Interesting - the Lisbon 2018 ESC staging is not using projection or LED screens. A decision has been made to use more physical staging and have a change of direction. Personally I think this is a good decision. In recent years the show has become a bit 'X factor' in coverage - where you are effectively covering a stage, not the performer at times.

I loved Oslo in 2010 precisely because it concentrated coverage on the artist, and creative and dynamic camera work, and didn't have to concentrate on the video screens.
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This Morning

JKDerry posted:
Riverside Studio at 6,500 Sq Ft will help in 2018. Apparently they will have two other studios there too which should help. Elstree operated by BBC Studioworks will be busy, as they have two 7,500 Sq Ft studios, the huge 2 George Lucas Stages and their massive Studio D, all will be needed come the closure of TLS.


Yep - but the Elstree Film studios aren't as flexible as the studios at TLS/ TVC - so are far less suited to single show set/strike productions, and even Elstree D isn't really as flexible AIUI. There's a reason these studios are almost always used for set-standing productions or long-blocks of recordings.

I suspect Riverside will be a lot more flexible, but they have to factor in not working 100% as a TV Studio operation don't they? ISTR that they have to operate as an Arts Venue to as part of the covenant (or similar) on their land (which is the reason they, like Elstree, are still running TV studios and haven't turned into housing...)
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Anglia/East of England News Discussion

Worzel posted:
Mike W posted:
DarthSidious posted:

Especially after you consider not long back Midlands Today basically got a rounded version of the same set that was only introduced back in 2013.

MTD got a different set - larger screens, their 10 year old recycled rear projector screen was finally retired and numerous lighting changes - visually it may have been similar but the layout, the parts were all very different as was the hardware driving it.

Their set was also 5 years old when it was replaced (2012-2017).

LE is in need of serious upgrades though, but it may be more political than you think, such as split programme budgets.


Problem is a lot of the gallery technology in Norwich is hanging on by a thread.


Like many English regions. The horrific Thomson 1707s (which Millbank and many English regions had, but TVC was never blighted with - but AIUI they aren't hugely different to the 1757s TVC used before they went Sony) can't go soon enough. Their pictures are horrific...
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Apparently the tech team had to raid TVC for spares for their cameras and gallery as most of it is now obsolete.


Pretty much EVERY SD gallery is now obsolete. Norwich is nothing special...
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This Morning

gottago posted:
Steve Williams posted:
623058 posted:
I still dont see whats wrong with Elstree or Maidstone?


Well, for audience shows, The London Studios benefits greatly benefits from being just minutes from a tube station (on several lines) and surrounded by umpteen shops and restaurants, which makes it massively convenient for stars, production teams and audiences. TVC has certainly improved in recent years in that regard too in terms of increased accessibility with more tube lines and Westfield. Not just does that make it easier and more pleasant for audiences, it also means people can get across London dead quick (like how some of Norton's guests come straight from a premiere).

Meanwhile, for all its fine qualities, Borehamwood High Street is not quite the same. And Maidstone is in Maidstone.

Although credit where it’s due, Borehamwood High Street is much more useful for last minute props and production bits than the South Bank! That mega Tesco Extra is a god send.


Shepherds Bush and Westfield aren't bad either though Smile
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This Morning

623058 posted:
I still dont see whats wrong with Elstree or Maidstone?


Try getting there by public transport, or more importantly, getting home from there after an evening recording. Elstree is better set than Maidstone, but both TVC and TLS have decent tube, bus and cab options capable of coping with large volumes of audience.

Big problem TVC now has is that there is no real solution for talent transport. If you need to have a large number of cabs waiting to take talent home - the new Wood Lane set-up is not-great...
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Winter Olympics 2018

Brekkie posted:
It's natural though with any sports coverage to focus on the success of home athletes/teams - NBC obviously take it to the extreme and the BBC are pretty good at covering the world stars as well, but as we've actually had something to shout about in the last few games the BBC have shouted as much as they can.

I think the big difference is NBC build all their coverage around the personalities rather than the sport - and that is what lets it down.


Yep - the BBC will show races with no Brits in them...
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This Morning

Whataday posted:
And it doesn't make any sense for ITV to retain several large studios for its own productions, when it can hire them as and when needed.


There's the rub though. TLS, TVC, Fountain and Teddington WERE the decent studios available for hire in London. Soon we'll just have TC1 (once TC3 is bought out by ITV. TC2 is too small for most shows).

There are very few other proper studios available in/around the capital... There are converted film studios - but they aren't the same as purpose-built TV studios. Even if you put a decent TV floor in and a half-way decent lighting grid, the converted film studios simply aren't as flexible. They're fine for 'set standing' productions like long runs of game shows, but are a terrible fit for one-off weekly shows that are shot close to TX (HIGNFY, Norton, Jonathan Ross, Strictly, X factor etc.).

Riverside can't re-open soon enough - but still leaves a huge gap in the market. ITV and other producers don't have a huge amount of choice 'to hire them as and when needed'. Increasingly I know studios have waiting lists for some shows, and PMs - and even commissioners - are having to schedule heavily around studio availability as much as anything.

However the reality of the London property bubble means that unless broadcasters own and operate studios - nobody well. (They aren't financially viable operations with property prices as they are - though that doesn't mean broadcasters operate them at a loss, just that they have an asset they haven't monetised to its highest value)
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North American Affilliates/Network Set Design

Rkolsen posted:
Well this is what happens when one of KNBC’s 85” portrait window dies:


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They put up a pop up signage in the place. When they built the studio they should have made a sign that can fill the “window space” with a generic graphic.

I’m surprised that the monitors died so early in their life when they started using the studio in 2014.


Wonder if the set designers were able to follow the proper mounting and ventilation guidelines for the screens. If there isn't decent airflow between and behind them, they could easily be running warmer than is ideal, which isn't great for longevity.

Or it could just be bad luck. In the early 00s I know of a studio that had lots of plasmas die less than 12 months after they were purchased, and cooling was implicated.
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

VMPhil posted:
I only have a standard HD TV and the previous standard HD only 4th gen Apple TV, so can't comment on UHD or HDR features I'm afraid.


Ah - the ATV4 doesn't include the new 'auto frame rate' option either does it? Think that is limited to the 4K (it comes along with the SDR/HDR switching option - as pre-tvOS 11.2 the 4K model was permanently HDR on HDR TVs, with non-ideal SDR->HDR conversion of SDR content)?

Which presumably means 23.976p stuff on Netflix/Amazon is also output at 59.94 with 3:2 judder on the ATV 4? ISTR that the ATV4 didn't offer 23.976p output as a manual choice for frame rate, so you couldn't force it either?
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

VMPhil posted:
Too bad it looks and functions nothing like a normal Apple TV app. And it’s only stereo which is no better than AirPlaying the iOS app.


Does it not do 2160p and HDR - or are both of those available via Airplay?
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Some sister companies of broadcasters

bluecortina posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
Westward TV had an airline and dabbled with Tourism marketing and art exhibitions:

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TWW owned opticians firm Dolland and Atchinson for a while


I am fairly certain that ‘Westward’ were the ‘West’ in ‘Pro-West’, manufactures of tv equipment that went on to become Pro-bel. Used to work on one of their vision mixers, not a bad bit of kit for the era.


Pro-West monitors were not widely regarded in BBC OBs ISTR...