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BBC Cymru Wales New HQ

Technologist posted:
thegeek posted:
welshkid posted:
Article on BBC News online giving further details

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54281802

I'm not sure that article's right in claiming that it's the first IP facility in the UK. It might have been the case when they first started building it, but I think Bloomberg got there first.

Bloomberg uses SMPTE ST2022-6 which encapsulates SDI in a IP stream that was on air arround start of 2018
BBC Wales and recent OB trucks (say from 2018 ) use SMPTE ST 2110 which carries the video audio and metadata as Separate IP flows .
It also carries video with no standard raster so that you can have 1080 *1920 for mobile phones or say 1920*350 for lower thirds upto 32k square .....

AS part of its help to,the industries in the current COvid situation some SMPTE standards including ST 2110 are free https://www.smpte.org/free-standards-and-publications
And it's Annual,conference in November where you can hear read and discuss technical papers and more is very cheap .... https://2020.smpte.org


And the big win for 2110 vs 2022-6/7 is that with 2110 you can carry uncompressed UHD as a single stream, rather than having to use compression or Quad-3G-over-IP techniques. 2022-6/7 is a neat stop-gap IP solution - but it carries all the issues of legacy HD-SDI over into IP in a way that is not always ideal.

This is why OB trucks switched to 2110 from 2022 as soon as it was feasible. (The first gen IP trucks Arena built have to use TICO compression over 2022 to carry UHD stuff)
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Britbox UK - UK SVoD Platform.

IndigoTucker posted:
johnnyboy posted:
The original Survivors series as well!

Up to episode 4!

The later episodes of S1, and all of S2/3 are the most beautiful 70s OB, that fits with the bleak, empty world beautifully. Not Britbox’s best attribute, but enjoy!


Have they upgraded BritBox to 720p50 or 1080p50 give you the full 50Hz motion on OB and studio video - or is it still a juddery film-effect mess at 720p25 or 1080p25? ITV Hub have upgraded to p50, and they are providing the back-end for BritBox (not iPlayer) so I hope that BritBox has upgraded too. If they have I'll consider a trial sub...
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Suitability of BBC regional studios

One of the major issues that causes compromises in current regional news studios is lighting grid height. Many of the newsrooms and studios are built in leased properties that have already been designed, and so influencing the height of the floor the studio is sited on is difficult, with standard office height areas not being ideal for studios.

In some cases this can be mitigated if you are able to have some say over the ceiling fit-out by influencing the design of the accommodation early enough (avoiding a suspended ceiling and ensuring the air conditioning is studio lighting-grid friendly). However if the space has already been completed, or the changes to the ceiling design will be too costly, you are kind of stuffed. This is particularly an issue with standing presentation, rather than seated.
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House of Commons native HD

aaronspence posted:
Rkolsen posted:
Were the cameras HD before but didn’t have the HD gallery? It looked fantastic when I remember Brexit negotiations.


I guess Sky got a HD feed that bypassed the gallery? Maybe straight out the CCU.

Agree looks good in native HD now.


I don't think Sky would have had clean feeds from each camera in the HoC (which is what having a CCU output would mean). The HoC TV operation operates to strict legal coverage rules. (The directors of the coverage have to follow rules about which shots can be used in each situation - how many reaction shots etc.)

If Sky were cutting their own mix, Sky would need to be following shot-for-shot to ensure they complied too.
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Suitability of BBC regional studios

So looks like Nottingham was the last English regional centre to get a decent studio when they moved (London could be kind of included in that as they definitely got an upgrade from Marylebone High Street when they moved in to New Broadcasting House).
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Suitability of BBC regional studios

AlfieMulcahy posted:

That looks really nice and slick. Much better than South East


That's what happens when you have a 'proper' studio. Plymouth and Southampton still have real studios to work with, as does Newcastle. Bristol sort of does too.

Leeds, Hull, Birmingham, Tunbridge Wells, Norwich and Cambridge don't have proper studios and really come from office spaces that have been converted. You could argue Salford doesn't either. Not sure what Nottingham got when they moved in the late 90s/early 00s.
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YouTube Gold

james-2001 posted:
It's neither, it's the desk that Moira Stuart sat at during Breakfast, in TC7.


Correct - initially news bulletins were presented from TC7 from a CSO position as the bit of the News Centre containing the newsroom and the N6 gallery (but not studio) was a crime scene and out of bounds.

Once the studio and gallery were usable again the two back-projectors in N6's studio were fed with a similar (from memory) red background (which was similar to News 24), as the newsroom camera couldn't be used (and a recorded shot would have been nonsensical given that the windows had been shattered by the bomb blast)
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Steph's Packed Lunch

Andrew posted:
She’d already moved onto Watchdog and the various Eat Well for less type shows


Steph did "Shop Well For Less" with Alex Jones (Steph handled the finance bits), but not Eat Well. "Eat Well For Less" is presented by Chris Bavin and Gregg Wallace.
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ITV News

Meridian AM posted:
RDJ posted:
AlfieMulcahy posted:
On the 'News at Ten' tonight it looked like the interview with Matt Hancock took place outside BBC Broadcasting House. I assume he was on his way to Andrew Marr.


Sky usually have a camera crew ready outside there for an interview on Sophy Ridge after they have appeared on Marr. And naturally ITV will get in there too.

Indeed if you watch Sunday Morning Live from 32:10 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000mvgb/sunday-morning-live-series-11-episode-13 ) you can see the melee of reporters and photographers hounding the Health Secretary in the background of the shot whilst the show itself calmly talks about pretty plants.


He was on Ridge before Marr yesterday.


Sunday Morning Live pre-record exterior items most Sundays.
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Reading Matter

thegeek posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:

They had a very clever and probably underappreciated in-joke in the list of contributors, a credit for Colin "Blud" Dalziel.


I think you're going to have to explain that one to me...


Dalziel is not pronounced Dal-zeel.
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

valley posted:
Location shoots will certainly be FX9 (replacing the old Panasonic (?) cameras they used to have - I've never done EE location, only studio).


When EE went "HD" they had HSC300s in the studio and on-site exterior locations that were triaxed, and bought Sony PDW700 (or was it 800?) XD Cam 2/3" camcorders for location shoots - as they were very similar in camera terms so matched very well in pretty much every respect.

As for 3500 vs 3170s - AIUI the camera heads are identical with just different cable-adaptor 'sides' on them ? (Certainly that is the case for the 3500 and 5500 which just differ in the SMPTE fibre sub-systems they use)
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BBC News nostalgia, including BBC World

Yes - the newsroom backdrop CSO-ed behind the presenter in N1 was (at least at one point) the presentation camera live without someone sitting in the chair. As you can imagine - this wasn't a great idea when presenters used to sit in on the newsroom set early (or a cleaner decided to clean it...) - leaving the N1 presenter with a presenter sitting in or a cleaner keyed behind them...