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20 years of the BBC News Channel (BBC News 24)

Weren’t a lot of hours branded as “x o’clock News” at one point?


Yes - single headed shifts in the evening had that branding. Except from memory there wasn't a 9 O'Clock News - no doubt the BBC One bulletin weren't happy about that title being used elsewhere...

Kate Garraway (aka 'The Jennifer Aniston of News 24') and Matthew Amroliwala were the main presenters in that slot (not together)
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20 years of the BBC News Channel (BBC News 24)

Screenshot's quite interesting, as it's a 16:9 screenshot from a time when the channel was only available in 14:9, so must have been taken from the studio at the time or a master tape!


Given that the website it apparently came from includes a cv with "Launched BBC News 24"...
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20 years of the BBC News Channel (BBC News 24)

Who is that presenter?

Someone who found out that her male co-presenter was getting paid more than her"?
Very Happy


That shift was single-headed, so no co-presenter...

(After Jackie Rowley left the BBC I think she went to work for the late Charles Kennedy when he was Lib Dem leader)
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Winter Olympics 2018

dvboy posted:
Impressive they've managed to keep reflections to a minimum when it's dark.


Lots of flagging combined with careful (and sensible) light positioning. Windows do only make sense in darkness if you have a properly lit background though.

Also - the close-ups appear to have bits of building in the back of their shots - which may well help if they are lit enough.
Last edited by noggin on 10 February 2018 1:00am
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BBC Breakfast

Now with all the recent speculation/rumour/gossip/innuendo about a refresh, etc. I’m loathe to post this, but... wouldn’t the BBC Winter Olympic studio make a rather interesting studio for Breakfast?
https://tvforum.uk/forums/post1099708#post-1099708
Before anybody asks - I know nothing. It’s an observation. A suggestion.


How well lit is the backdrop at 0600 in the winter?

(And do Breakfast have the budget to take over a new space - and pay for it - when they already have a studio? That's a genuine question - not a 'they don't'. I have no idea.)
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Winter Olympics 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90B4nzGSEaQ


Think some of the UK brains behind Peter Snow (and possibly Jeremy Vine) election graphics of yesteryear may have had a hand in that?
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Winter Olympics 2018

Moz posted:
Really disappointed by the coverage. Why the hell is Clare Balding in Salford with lovely views of the Manchester skyline? And WHOOOOO is John Hunt? He was awful - whispering John they should call him.

The Daily Mail wins once again.



Doesnt it look awful, why havent they flown them out?


Winter Olympics have often been presented from the UK - throughout the 90s and early 00s they were. Turin had a studio in Italy because it was in a sensible timezone, Vancouver and Sochi were single camera on location, but both were better timezones for a UK audience. Anchoring highlights from Korea in the middle of the night makes no sense, particularly when the BBC is having to save money. The BBC have location/studio presentation in Korea during the times of day it makes sense to be live there (which is overnight here)
Steve Williams, UKnews and DE88 gave kudos
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Winter Olympics 2018

Was always going to be the case - they're essentially red button channels. Suspect only Eurosport 1 will have any presentation. ES2 will probably be basically be the OBS streams but with more ads.


BBC Red Button channels have someone complying them and put up BBC slates between broadcasts. Just parking OBS feeds to line is a lot more basic.
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Winter Olympics 2018

Those of us on cable have had to live without Sky Atlantic when half the world's been talking about Game Of Thrones for the last several years, I think Sky customers can cope without Eurosport 3-5.

I get that point, however this is my main gripe.

I pay for Eurosport via my monthly subs payment to Sky.


No - you pay Sky for a package of channels. Sky then in turn pay Eurosport a commercial rate negotiated between them. You aren't paying Eurosport - you are paying Sky...

If you were paying Eurosport directly - as used to be the case with BT Sport, I could see the argument, but you aren't. You're paying Sky.

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Therefore, any additional channels Eurosport may wish to launch I should be able to automatically receive - unless its advertised as a premium addition to the normal subscription.


Why? Sky didn't market them to you when you signed up for Sky.

Eurosport can't force Sky to take them, Sky can't force Eurosport to give them to them... The commercial truth is probably somewhere in between.
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Winter Olympics 2018

Opening Ceremony in France is on France 2 and Franceinfo. Not on FR Eurosport 1 or 2.


I don't think Eurosport have rights in France do they? Like the BBC, France Televisions had their own deal with the IOC for 2018 and 2020.

The BBC did a deal with Discovery to swap 2022/2024 rights and 2018/2020 rights, but I don't think a similar deal has been made in France.
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Winter Olympics 2018

a516 posted:
From reading posts from users in different countries and different platforms, even just within the UK, it seems Eurosport's Olympic strategy is a bit haphazard and unclear.


I think that Eurosport is very autonomous within each territory - as much as anything as the rights situation and heritage in each territory being so different.
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Winter Olympics 2018

a516 posted:
It's just been announced in German media outlets that Eurosport 1 HD and TLC HD will be free on satellite during the Winter Olympics. They are usually part of the HD+ service. (SD is already free).

Existing HD+ users like myself will get access to Eurosport 2Xtra's Winter Olympic coverage.


Yep - and AIUI Eurosport HD on terrestrial DVB-T2, which is usually being the Freenet paywall (love it being called Free...) is also FTA for the duration? Though http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?liste=1&live=18&lang=en&mux=FREENET-TV-3 seems to suggest it's still encrypted as of this morning? (No resolution details or screen shots)

But neither do Eurosport 1 HD or TLC HD on Astra 19.2 - so it could be the switch hadn't/hasn't happened yet...