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Good Morning Britain

RDJ posted:




Not giving much away there but should we be expecting a bigger set compared to Studio 5? I suppose yes considering This Morning is sharing the studio.

Studio 5 in the London Studios is 2,268 Sq Ft. Their new home at Television Centre in Studio TC2 is 3,430 Sq Ft, so they have a little bit more room, not a great deal more, but a little bit more.


Aren't GMB and This Morning sharing TC3 (8,000 square feet) not TC2? (Hence Sean's comment about a bigger space)

I thought Lorraine and Loose Women were sharing TC2 (3,430 square feet)?

I think we all assumed that the daytime schedule is :

GMB - TC3
Lorraine - TC2
(Jeremy Kyle)
This Morning - TC3
Loose Women - TC2
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Good Morning Britain

Where is the newsgathering done for GMB - is that all done by ITV News nowadays, so presumably off site anyway, or do they have their own team at TLS as well?


TVDP posted:
They have their own team at TLS floor 4 ^^


Presumably some of these people will be sited In the ITV Daytime offices in the old BBC White City building?
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Given that the alzheimers discussion was a pre-record, I loved how Victoria has made the effort to wear the same outfit but went out and had her hair restyled for the RTS awards posing a bit of a continuity issue.


If the 'film effect' interview was a studio recording, then it could have been a mistake in the edit, or it could have been an 'editorial' decision (taken by someone who doesn't know the DPP rules - and as Derbyshire is a BBC Two show I'd expect it to have to meet the same rules as any other network show)
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Has Victoria Derbyshire got so arty they have to stick a film effect on the studio discussions now? Good god. The people who make these decisions really need a good slap.


If it was the in the studio - then their studio cameras can't shoot 25p native (the original HSC300 is 1080i25 or 720p50 only) - so it will have been a DVE effect, which is not allowed under BBC (and industry-wide) DPP Tech standards...

Quote:
2.1.3 Film motion or ‘film effect’
It is not acceptable to shoot in 1080i/25 and add a film motion effect in post-production. Most High Definition cameras can capture in either 1080i/25 or 1080p/25. Where film motion is a requirement, progressive capture is the only acceptable method.
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

AxG posted:
But during the start this evening they had a sort of AR (I’ve no idea) video over the usual backdrop behind where the presenters sit, I doubt they’ve replaced it with a screen.


It's just a DVE shrink, which as Andrew suggests would only work with a locked off camera shot. Nicely done, and they didn't keep it on screen for long enough for you to realise that it's fake.


Doesn't even need to be a DVE - could just be a key+fill overlay..
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This Morning

I'm sure they'll manage to make the fake views work on camera. The problem will come in the Summer when they often go out and around the south bank. There is scope for them to do this at TVC but it's going to jar when your studio has a view of the Thames.


All depends how you shoot it though - it's entirely possible to shoot an exterior item without it being jarring.


They could just stage an OB outside elsewhere instead, send Rylan somewhere to do whatever item hey would do on the south bank.


If they have a bottomless budget - sure. There's a big difference between staging a decent-sized OB and running cameras back to your main gallery (particularly if you can commute cameras and/or operators)
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The New ITV & BBC Weather Thread

I'm confused - so the BBC now have a contract with Meteogroup, yet still use Met Office weather warnings? It doesn't make sense to me.


This was announced when the contract changed hands. The BBC agreed to continue to broadcast Met Office weather warnings as a public service, just as they continue to broadcast the Shipping Forecast (which I believe is provided by the Met Office) on Radio.
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BBC Oneness - idents and presentation

Some digital set top boxes have a 14:9 option, presumably they were using a box set up that way.


I think relatively recent STBs properly followed AFDs which would trigger a 14:9 letterbox for a 4:3 display when it received content AFD flagged as 14:9 safe. This effectively fully simulated what the ARCs feeding the 4:3 PAL analogue network did.

Yes, I see the BBC News channel in 14:9 when letterbox mode is selected. The other BBC and ITV channels also used to zoom to 14:9 before they changed to forced 16:9 letterbox.


Yes - suspect most channels are now AFDing 16:9 safe, and News Channel still AFDs as 14:9?
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This Morning

Is it? Lots of shows have fake background of things that aren't really there.


Yep - The Andrew Marr Show springs to mind. Their final TV Centre set design had a pretty clean central London skyline as a backdrop in the Barco wal. Didn't think it looked disastrous. It was clearly not 'real' - but it was pretty effective (and the 'Big Ben over the guest shoulder' shot has become a bit of a hallmark of the show)
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BBC Oneness - idents and presentation


The TV's in most Travelodge's are odd, how they do what they do to their channels I gave no idea. stayed at a few post-switchover that provided a 14:9 version of BBC1 on their widescreen sets. How on earth?

Some digital set top boxes have a 14:9 option, presumably they were using a box set up that way.


I think relatively recent STBs properly followed AFDs which would trigger a 14:9 letterbox for a 4:3 display when it received content AFD flagged as 14:9 safe. This effectively fully simulated what the ARCs feeding the 4:3 PAL analogue network did.
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Discovery buys Scripps

Well I assume the clause only kicks in when the deal goes through, so we'll hear something soon after it completes (one way or the other)?


Doesn't it work the other way round? If you are buying something that someone else has first dibs of a part of, don't you need to know whether you're getting that bit too? Or am I missing something?
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ITV abandons the South Bank

AxG posted:
Are they not off to Pyeongchang for the Paralympics?


Could be that they are using a TLS gallery, but presenting on-site in Korea if that is the case.