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Saturday Night Takeaway 2018

623058 posted:

* Ireland is part of the British isles


That's an incredibly contentious definition - and not universally accepted by any means. Many consider the island of Ireland to NOT be part of the British Isles, and using the term to include Ireland is very politically loaded to this day...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_naming_dispute gives you some of the background. It's a minefield and definitely not a term that is used on-air significantly.
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Rkolsen posted:
deejay posted:
Paper scripts are not without their issues (having them in the wrong order, throwing the wrong ones away etc) but they never crash!!


Wasting half the sheet. Does the presenter really need to know half the code for graphics or what audio channel is open?

I say put the essentials inline like the story slug, a change in camera, when a guests introduced. Not all the code. There was reporter here at a local station who had to do a 30 second tease before the late local news. Five sentences spread across six pages all because of the code.


ENPS allows you to design custom print layouts (not everyone bothers) that can make paper scripts significantly easier for talent to read, reducing the size of automation instructions etc. (which are usually replicated in the dialogue portion of the script for the talent in a more 'talent friendly' format anyway).

Paper scripts are kind of vital for any live newscast, and good presenters will always manage them effectively.
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This Morning

alexjac0788 posted:
Certainly one way of doing it.

The move to implement the Phillip & Holly brand on the show: was this decided in 2015 in preparation for Holly's return from maternity? There must have been some concern on how much of the audience had been retained in the time she was absent and this was deemed as a way to rescue it.

I'll be interested to see how, or if, the titles change with the studio move.


Did the audience numbers significantly change when Holly was absent?
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Eurovision 2018

DVB Cornwall posted:
It's become too formulaic this time around, even for heavens sake, issuing the timetabled running order to the minute to the viewer in advance, so nothing has come to the keen viewer as a surprise. Fat Freddie was a disaster, recurring thoughts of Larry Grayson in Russell Grant's form factor grated, is that really 2018?

I think there was a major disconnect between what they thought they were trying to do, and what they actually did. It fell totally flat.

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There'll be a battle royal in SVT over M. 2019 with the radical suggestion of renaming the whole thing Mello, as it's known colloquially in Sweden probably winning through.

I'm not so sure. The 'Mello' branding that crept in (Anna Book vignettes, cue cards etc.) was apparently a Sunil Munshi thing - and I think the 'Mello' brand is likely to depend on whether he remains or not. The overall creative direction of the show this year has not been fantastic - so I wouldn't bet on him returning...
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The preponderance of having at least one novelty entrant in the SFs needs to go, concentrating on the Swedish Pop Market. should be enough.

I disagree - it's a family show. There are 28 entrants. You can cope with a couple of entertaining wild cards.

This goes to the core of Melodifestivalen though. It used to be an entertainment show that selected a song to send to Eurovision. It's morphed into a mini-Eurovision. The novelty acts sit well with the former, and don't sit well with the latter, but I think the former is what the show should be. It's why we loved the show. I don't want to watch a cut-down ESC, I want to watch a fun, witty, well crafted entertainment show. (As I suspect do most of the Swedish viewers)
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I'm wondering whether Christer's reign might be coming to an end too.

Well the reality is that Christer is really only there to handle the music... He's relied on others to generate the actual show. And this year there's been a mis-fire in that regard.

The music this year was a bit so-so though... Nothing majorly stand out.

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Sand's term as head honcho must be close to the end, so Bjorkman would seem to be a logical successor there, opening a vacancy to revitalise the SVT show.


I guess it depends how much they want to re-invent the show. You can revitalise it by hiring a team who know how to make entertainment TV - not stage plays...
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Eurovision 2018

Gary McEwan posted:
DVB Cornwall posted:
Melfest was the closest for years, with no clear winner. With twelve entrants the SMS voting percentage for the winner Benjamin Ingrosso was only a smidgen over 10.5pct.


Yet the UK Jury gave 12 points to Samir & Viktor with Shuffla which is dreadful IMO. Wasn't overly impressed this year with the artists as a whole this year unfortunately which is a shame as Melfest and Sweden is the one that I look most forward to.


This whole run of Melodifestivalen has been sub-par. It's been slaughtered in the Swedish tabloids, has seen a drop in ratings, and for the first time in a while hasn't been the most watched show of the week in Sweden. The humour has fallen flat and the music has been a bit average.

It's reached a point where the music direction and CuePilot execution is almost too slick, but the production of the other elements is very 'student TV'... Real disconnect.
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Eurovision 2018

DVB Cornwall posted:
Melfest was the closest for years, with no clear winner. With twelve entrants the SMS voting percentage for the winner Benjamin Ingrosso was only a smidgen over 10.5pct.


Don't you mean phone, SMS and app voting - or has there been a breakdown by platform?
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BBC World News | 30th October 2017 Onwards

I wonder if that is a switching thing. The new 'Channel in a Box' Morpheus ICE system that Red Bee have introduced (and which does vision mixing, graphics, DVEs etc. internally - I believe in the IP domain) has significant internal delays in it, compared to the old system of having an HD-SDI vision mixer controlled by automation.
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Good Morning Britain

Hatton Cross posted:
The old Limehouse Television wasn't it?


Could well be. The loss of Limehouse was so sad. A victim of the redevelopment of Docklands I believe - as it was on the site of Canary Wharf. Was a popular facility with production teams and crew.

I know the studio elements of Treasure Hunt were recorded there, along with lots of the Hat Trick shows. I believe the studio bits in Diana Ross's 'Chain Reaction' video were also shot there, with the Limehouse Link cameras clad in fake 'old camera' casings.
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Channel 4 News

Ben posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
No I'm thinking of one of the early ITV companies, I'm pretty sure they were double headed from different studios in different cities rather than being separate programmes.


Coast to Coast when TVS launched had a weird format consisting on a pan-regional part and including the ITN News at 545.


Was that because the South East Coast to Coast elements still came from the old Southern TV studio in Dover before Vintners Park opened? (Not sure it was geared up for a 5 day a week full 30 minute show?)
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Noel on Strike

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Going by the style of that graphic it looks like its either coming from an Archimedes or an Amiga


Probably an Acorn Archimedes. The BBC used them quite a lot behind-the-scenes (just as they did BBC Micros before them). The Mastermind score graphics were done by an Archimedes in the latter part of the OB era. They used one of the RGB outputs as a key - so it was nicely anti-aliased (as they didn't need full RGB colour)

The BBC OB RF camera tally and colour balance system also ran on Archimedes computers.

Doctor Who used BBC Micros and then Archimedes for in-vision screens (and in Silver Nemesis you actually see an Archimedes in shot generating the landing position for the Cybermen...)
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Commonwealth Games 2018 on BBC

Brekkie posted:

The Glasgow studio was just a temporary (I assume it was demolished) structure outside their Scottish HQ with a view across the river. This could actually be good for the BBC in Birmingham - might see some more stuff being sent there as a result.


Well there aren't any 'real' studios there, and it's currently an SD set-up, but apart from that...
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

skyQhater posted:
SuperSajuuk posted:
Revitt posted:
I wonder what's happened to Newsroom Live this morning? Just being introduced as BBC News and doesn't seem to be any wide shots.

The programme appears to be getting presented from the BBC London studio again (like it was during one weekend of the Pyeongchang Olympics),, so it's just "BBC News". Sport has also been in a different studio this week as well, more problems in their "main" ones again it seems.

Even the barco cubes didnt have this many issues!


No - but the N8 aircon did...
Last edited by noggin on 8 March 2018 7:02pm