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This Morning

Whataday posted:
Personally, I think it was a betrayal of This Morning's heritage to ignore it altogether. As a programme it has always been in touch with the nation's psyche and for the average TM viewer that was a major story yesterday. Also, drink driving is the sort of issue This Morning should be tackling head on. If the hosts feel they can't discuss such an item because they feel too personally involved, I see that as an issue.


Ant has been arrested. That means proceedings are now 'active'. Legally you have certain responsibilities when reporting or discussing the case, and it becomes difficult to discuss them in a 'This Morning'-style manner, with reviewers giving opinions rather than facts. As soon as someone is arrested the proceedings become active, it's not just when someone has been charged nor when the case comes to court.

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‘Active proceedings’

Once proceedings are ‘active’, anything which creates a substantial risk that the course of justice in these proceedings will be seriously prejudiced or impeded will be a contempt of court.



It's basic journalism law : http://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/journalism/article/art20130702112133630
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SNG, Mobile Uplinks, Bonded Cellular and Downlinks

Rkolsen posted:
Since this thread discusses satellites (and I think was discussed in this thread) I found a variation of the RX8200 receiver by Ericsson of that’s designed for receiving Sky services specifically for broadcast applications. It takes a single access card and outputs an HD-SDI with 4:2:0 decoding.

https://mediasolutions.ericsson.com/cms/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/RX8200-Datasheet-SkyUK.pdf


Yep - though there are lots of domestic Sky boxes with HDMI->HD-SDI Converters hanging off the back of them. (At one point you could get HDMI->HD-SDI converters with optional HDCP removal, which was enabled if you assumed the responsibility for any legal issues that might cause). (Some also have IR blasters on them to ensure they are on the right channel prior to recording)
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BBC World News | 30th October 2017 Onwards

Steve in Pudsey posted:
Is that even keyed out or just an overlaid graphic?


Anything that is inset into a video image is effectively keyed. An overlay done with a DVE is effectively keyed (the DVE generates a key signal - either externally or internally).

Keying doesn't have to be chroma-keying. (Most CGs output a key signal along with a fill for instance, and you can self-key if you absolutely have to...)
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BBC World News | 30th October 2017 Onwards

news junkie posted:
noggin posted:
Rkolsen posted:

I assume putting a green graphic on the screen would be very noticeable in the reflection on the desk. Sometimes the presenters and the desk get reflections that’s to me look blue or sometimes green.


Naturally at certain angles, acrylic can have a greenish hue on reflections.


Yeah, in Reporting Scotland's old set they used to key out the red wall to use as a screen. They done a good job, but as Noggin said red hue made it's way on to the desk.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fi4nvMvmY7M/TzJruxvPDDI/AAAAAAAAAbw/arFkDZK-SC0/s400/jab20120207p.jpg


That's not what I said (or not what I meant). I meant that even without any green-screen being used in a set, acrylic can give you a nasty green tint on the desk (even when there isn't any green in the studio)
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BBC World News | 30th October 2017 Onwards

Rkolsen posted:

I assume putting a green graphic on the screen would be very noticeable in the reflection on the desk. Sometimes the presenters and the desk get reflections that’s to me look blue or sometimes green.


Naturally at certain angles, acrylic can have a greenish hue on reflections.
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ITV abandons the South Bank

DanielK posted:
markchimoneill posted:
So a picture of the new TM set was put up on Instagram, guess they’re trying to keep everything as similar as possible
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I don't see why they wouldn't/couldn't use that Viz Window technology (it was owned bt Viz at one point IIRC).

Basically the same idea as the "in front/behind" switch that is used on green screens at election time, except this is smart enough not to need a physical switch.


But why would you want to use green screen in a studio if you didn't have to? The limitations on keying (colour of clothing, props, cooking ingredients even) would be a pain in the proverbial that you didn't need. Minimising green spill from that many windows (particularly when they are so close on the camera left side) would be a challenge. Last thing you want is green spill all over cookery.

Also - This Morning is a 'real people' show. Sitting them in a room filled with green windows would be a really un-natural experience, compared to screens, where they see what the viewer at home sees.

Plus if you are using an AR/VR system to render the view, you'd also need camera positioning and sensing gear, plus cope with the rendering delays. Again - more problems to solve that you don't need to with real screens.
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ITV abandons the South Bank

Aaron_2015 posted:
Not a huge fan of the new This Morning studio, it looks like the cheap re-recreation that they took to the NEC in Birmingham. Looks like we’ll have blue lighting instead of the old warm white lighting, and there looks to be two smaller sofas instead of one large one.

I think they would have been better off with a new studio concept entirely, instead of recreating the existing look. Although I do see why they’ve tried to keep some consistency.


What makes you think there will be blue lighting in the new look? That could easily just be an LED test either testing the lighting or the lighting desk connectivity. I'd hold fire on any judgement until you see the set on-camera...
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BBC World News | 30th October 2017 Onwards

Rkolsen posted:
Now did the skits studio segment come from a completely seperate setup (external cameras and graphics) or did they record the skit using studio cameras and automation? Did they even use the VizRT engines to generate the lower thirds?


Pretty certain Click will have used existing cameras, sound and automation, but the screen content looks to have been keyed in post, as you can see a reflection in the desk of alternative content (with text on it) in that grab can't you?

I'd expect them to have either taken the Viz content as-live as part of the recording, recorded them as key and fill separately, or given Click the assets. I suspect the first option is the most likely.
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BBC Oneness - idents and presentation

Brekkie posted:
Yes, as always the BBC taking the more disruptive option, airing a 45-minute edition of Countryfile at 7.35pm then pushing everything back 20 minutes.


Countryfile is one of the BBC's highest rating shows. They won't drop it.
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Channel 4

james-2001 posted:
It's a live, post-watershed show that starts at 22:00, so not sure why they need to apologise.


Broadcasting post-watershed doesn't mean 'anything goes'. There is still a sliding scale of 'offensiveness' when it comes to language. Some words will always trigger a warning, or an apology if said without a warning, whatever the time of day. Similarly offensive comments that don't use bad language but cause offence in a different way.
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ITV abandons the South Bank

JKDerry posted:
james-2001 posted:
They've still made a mistake not keeping a second medium sized studio. Wasn't there a campaign to keep TC8 at one time? Though that was isolated from studios 1-3 which I imagine would have been a problem. I'm sure they could have kept TC4 though.

There was original plans to keep Studio TC4 however Stanhope developers felt that another studio would be too much and they wanted to build more apartments, so that plan was dumped fairly fast.


Not sure those plans got that far. The South Hall separation made huge sense in development terms, as it provided good isolation between the production and residential zones on the site. In particular it helped avoid 'noisy neighbour' issues... TC4 would have been very close to apartments...
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ITV abandons the South Bank

james-2001 posted:
They've still made a mistake not keeping a second medium sized studio. Wasn't there a campaign to keep TC8 at one time? Though that was isolated from studios 1-3 which I imagine would have been a problem. I'm sure they could have kept TC4 though.


There was a campaign to keep TC8 - as it was separate to TCs4-7 and not in the doughnut (it was in Spur/Stage IV). However that campaign didn't ever really attract traction - and keeping the spaces isolated would have been tricky. Then the plans were revised and Stage IV and Stage V were demolished rather than refurbished...