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BBC.co.uk - site cutbacks & beyond

Well, just don't put on archive material from indies then!


That would remove an awful lot of drama from the boxsets... And drama is the driving force for them.
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Saturday Night Takeaway 2018

He was charged this evening and will appear at Wimbledon Magistrates Court on April 4. The case is now sub judice and should not be discussed here or elsewhere.


The case has been active since he was arrested.
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French TV

I'm a little confused by the France O structure. Could someone clarify? I was under the impression that French overseas territories did not get France 1,2,3, etc but instead got France O as their main channel, featuring a hybrid of the France Televisions shows and their local news. From closer inspection, it looks like the overseas territories instead get France 1 with an opt for their local television news.

UPDATE - I think I've worked it out. Is France 1 (Martinique, etc), just France O but localised? As there is no France 1 in Metropolitan France.

Basically, mainland France has France 2 to 5 plus France Ô (there isn't a France 1).


Each overseas territory has a local channel run by France Télévisions called La Première, using the '1' logo as their branding. The channel basically carries local news and locally produced programming for each territory, as well as I think programming produced by sister 1ère channels in other territories.

In mainland France they broadcast France Ô as an outlet for programming from the 1ère channels from all the territories, essentially as a way of connecting the overseas territories to the mainland.

In the past 1ère was part of the France 3 regional network, I think with additional opt outs to carry programmes from the other mainland channels. However since the digital switchover I believe they all now receive France 2-5 from the mainland, meaning it is no longer neccessary for 1ère to carry programming from the mainland channels.

Any idea what they air during the France 3 regional slots in those territories? Presumably just the Paris feed?


I thought that St Pierre et Miquelon had their own France 3 regional news - presumably shared with the first channel - but I may be wrong.
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The Freeview Thread


Yes, for the benefit of others the tops of each mux should be totally flat, but they rarely are in reality.
Both COM 7 and 8 are in bad shape, COM 8 is so distorted it's obviously unrecoverable.

I note a nice 4G phone signal at 795ish MHz Cool


I get COM 8 on 754MHz, it's COM 7 on 746MHz I don't receive by the look of it.


That is odd, run the scan a few times, if might be the distortion varies with time (due to local moving objects !)
but I assume you have no wind farms nearby ?!

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/services/interference-studies/television_interference_studies_for_wind_turbine_installations.pdf


It's consistent over an hour or two. I have no wind farms near by...
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The Freeview Thread

Here's my Crazy Scan 2 report for West London https://imgur.com/a/NDkdp

COM 8 is defintely much more marginal, and COM 7 is effectively invisible. (Crazy Scan 2 with Air Scan output)


Yes, for the benefit of others the tops of each mux should be totally flat, but they rarely are in reality.
Both COM 7 and 8 are in bad shape, COM 8 is so distorted it's obviously unrecoverable.

I note a nice 4G phone signal at 795ish MHz Cool


I get COM 8 on 754MHz (and thus receive CBeebies HD, and BBC Four HD tonight), it's COM 7 on 746MHz I don't receive (so no BBC News HD, C4+1 HD etc.). Grr...
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The Freeview Thread

Here's my Crazy Scan 2 report for West London https://imgur.com/a/NDkdp

COM 8 is defintely much more marginal, and COM 7 is effectively invisible. (Crazy Scan 2 with Air Scan output)
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

I suspect that if the regions do get a virtualization solution along to same lines as ViLoR for local radio that would surely standardise the graphics kit.

From images seen over the years on Twitter BBC News appear to have X number if Viz engines and use them across a larger number of channels / output. I wonder if the cost to increase this for all regions (the peak concurrent usage) means it would be too expensive and they end up with some other solution or would they be able to negotiate a better deal given they will all be in use at the same time for less than 90 minutes per day.


The BBC already have a pretty good deal with Viz AIUI - as they have a LOT of engines across News, Sport and Sport News output across the corporation.

Whether this will scale for every English region though - when other, more cost-effective, solutions are available for the reduced flexibility that the regions require is a different question.

The other big question is whether ViLor-for-TV will deliver an off-site IP solution in a sensible timescale, or of instead a simple, one-size-fits-every-region HD-SDI solution can be designed that gives every SD region an identical HD functionality. If you have a single design you significantly reduce individual design and build costs for each regional centre. You could fabricate off-site and effectively deliver a couple of bays of gear with server, mixer, matrix, CCUs and CGs already installed and prewired.
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The Freeview Thread

I've lost COM 7 on all three DVB-T2 devices, but have COM 8 on all of them... Odd. They are only 8MHz apart...


I suspect if you were to look on a spectrum analyser, there'd be a large hole (due to standing wave mismatch etc) possibly affecting both muxes, but effectively knocking COM 7 out of decodability.


Yep - it must be a specific null that's hitting COM 7. Annoying. It's a rooftop aerial in West London. Never get any errors on DTT (TV Headend logs them)

I've got a couple of DVB-T/T2 dongles that are compatible with CrazyScan - I'll see what they look like when I get a chance.
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

I suspect that if the regions do get a virtualization solution along to same lines as ViLoR for local radio that would surely standardise the graphics kit.

From images seen over the years on Twitter BBC News appear to have X number if Viz engines and use them across a larger number of channels / output. I wonder if the cost to increase this for all regions (the peak concurrent usage) means it would be too expensive and they end up with some other solution or would they be able to negotiate a better deal given they will all be in use at the same time for less than 90 minutes per day.


You'll note that I said standardise but deliberately didn't suggest on what Smile That said, the ViLoR project allowed them to provide VCS Dira playout for the local stations which wasn't viable with conventional kit, so it might be possible.


There is at least one Open Source CG solution that could perfectly replicate the current BBC News on-screen look for the price of a decent PC and a BMD HD-SDI output card - without the hefty cost of a Viz licence for every engine...

Rendering in the cloud would be an option for recorded packages - IF you have time - but still doesn't solve the problem of 15 or so galleries all simultaneously needing to be able to do live captions for studio and OB items. If you have a live CG then you have no need to pre-caption your recorded content.
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The Freeview Thread

I've lost COM 7 on all three DVB-T2 devices, but have COM 8 on all of them... Odd. They are only 8MHz apart...
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Channel 4 News


Of course, he was talking about their being 70 affiliates in 1965, whereas there was only 4 channels (NBC, ABC, CBS and maybe an independent UHF station). But I was talking about BBC1, BBC2, ITV, C4, C5 and not the BBC and ITV regions.


It's not correct to describe NBC, ABC and CBS as 'channels' though - they were networks. The individual stations (affiliates if you will - if indeed they were fully affiliated) were the 'channels' people watched - and branded as such.

It really is tricky to compare the US and UK/European broadcast cultures. To this day the US can't quite comprehend a co-ordinated national transmitter network, and in some cases describe it as socialist, antidemocratic or state-controlled (I kid you not)...
DE88, rupesh and London Lite gave kudos
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This Morning


Active cases are always incredibly high risk for broadcasters to cover.

Indeed - you have to be incredibly careful. Jury influence is taken very seriously - and a discussion made on national TV about the case in a non-factual manner could have big ramifications for both ITV and the production team involved.

Quote:

This Morning was almost definitely taking the safe option, rather than protecting an ITV employee. (Of course, as has been claimed, there is the possibility that they would have been more happy to take the risk had it not been someone from within ITV).


Yes - though equally it's also quite convenient for them as they don't have to address a tricky situation for ITV on a number of levels.

This Morning could have addressed it in a paper review, but that review would have stuck out like a sore thumb on the show (to keep the lawyers happy)