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BBC News | Presenter & Correspondent Reshuffles

AlexS posted:
The problem comes when they need to add to the obituary when the person dies as its a lot harder to disguise different voices than it is to disguise a different person writing part of a piece.


If you were doing that you'd re-voice the whole obit. News usually edit with VO on a separate track still - so that's actually not to tricky to do.

Are scripts stored electronically for obit pieces? Are they for many pieces generally?


Probably - but in reality, how long does it take to transcribe a relatively short piece?
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BBC News | Presenter & Correspondent Reshuffles

AlexS posted:
A lot of obituaries are going to have to be re-recorded now.


I imagine they'll just keep them, unless he's going to a different broadcaster. If he's retiring, there's not really a need to revoice the obits. In newspapers, some obituaries are published long after the writer has died.

The problem comes when they need to add to the obituary when the person dies as its a lot harder to disguise different voices than it is to disguise a different person writing part of a piece.


If you were doing that you'd re-voice the whole obit. News usually edit with VO on a separate track still - so that's actually not to tricky to do.
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Good Evening Britain?

dvboy posted:
Is The One Show itself not droppable enough?

Yes - and that has happened in the past in Scotland when Reporting Scotland has extended to an hour (such as during the run-up to the Independence Referendum).
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Good Evening Britain?

You could make a reasonable argument for moving The One Show to 7.30 and putting on something more droppable so that the nations and occasionally those regions with a big story can extend more easily.

I'm not sure that's arguable from a core scheduling strategy.


The BBC 1830 News hour is a ratings juggernaut - it is often the most watched news slot of the day. Putting something droppable (i.e. something that is self-contained and not particularly good) in the slot that inherits that audience is probably not a great move - particularly when you are already trying to avoid a ratings cliff-drop caused by switchover to Emmerdale.
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Good Morning Britain

TCOTV posted:
Am I missing a joke or something because GMB and This Morning are not moving to TVC Studio 3 (TC3) like the bio of this thread says, they are moving to Studio 2 (TC2). Ben posted a video on Instagram in February giving a peak at the new studio (link below) and in the reply he confirms they are moving to TC2 (Might not show in web version). Which is the smallest studio at TVC. My guess Studio 3 which will home Lorraine and Loose women will become available from mid afternoon after Loose Women. I would not be surprised if It takes two comes from Studio 3 in the evening this year.

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Link to Ben's post: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfvk136gstw/?hl=en&taken-by=benshephardofficial

This is what I have been thinking for some time, as TC3 is 8,000 Sq Ft and would be perfect for Loose Women's studio audience size.


But GMB sharing a studio with This Morning isn't feasible with two standing sets, and they won't want to do set-strike in 2 hours, or share the same set for both shows. TC3 makes sense for two standing sets for the two shows, which is - I believe - the plan.

Lorraine and Loose Women are set-strike I believe, which makes sense as both are smaller sets.
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Good Morning Britain

TCOTV posted:
Am I missing a joke or something because GMB and This Morning are not moving to TVC Studio 3 (TC3) like the bio of this thread says, they are moving to Studio 2 (TC2). Ben posted a video on Instagram in February giving a peak at the new studio (link below) and in the reply he confirms they are moving to TC2 (Might not show in web version). Which is the smallest studio at TVC. My guess Studio 3 which will home Lorraine and Loose women will become available from mid afternoon after Loose Women. I would not be surprised if It takes two comes from Studio 3 in the evening this year.

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Link to Ben's post: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfvk136gstw/?hl=en&taken-by=benshephardofficial


Ben may not be that familiar with the BBC TV Centre studio layout yet - he may simply have confused TCs 2 and 3.
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This Morning


Given the fact that Ant and Dec, Graham Norton, The Last Leg etc have all mentioned the studios closing down, it is so obvious they are moving out, so I guess they will mention it on the first day and that is it. If This Morning and GMB want to use the outdoor look of Television Centre as they did often on the Southbank, then it will become even more noticeable where they are at, they can't hide any pretence.


But there's a major difference between those shows and This Morning. Those shows have indeed mentioned it but the aspect of the South Bank itself plays no element whatsoever in the show really. They could be held in any studio and no one would be none the wiser - yes, Ant and Dec have used the building from time to time and on the titles, but the majority of the show is from Studio 1. This Morning however has the view of South Bank as a major element of the programme... it's always there on show because it's part of the set and the windows have always been a big part of the show. That's why I'm unsure whether they'll mention it. If they do opt for outdoor segments, then, yes indeed it might shatter the illusion. However, most non-TV enthusiasts will just think that they're in a yard/garden somewhere and not at TVC. Indeed, if they do spot that they're using somewhere at TVC, many viewers that don't have any awareness of London might just think that TVC must be right next to the South Bank! We sometimes forget how unknowledgeable the average viewer is. Laughing

Another thing to consider is that it's only been in recent years that they've used the South Bank a lot more - when This Morning moved there originally, they sometimes went outside but not as much as they tend to now and many segments were indoors. It might simply be a case of going back to basics more - they've got a bigger space to play with so they might actually find it easier to create small temporary sets for certain segments or record segments on location somewhere.

I can see there being a mention of moving studios at the end of the final show, but I do wonder whether they'll mention moving away from South Bank so the average viewer just thinks they're in another one with a view of the Thames. These are all just thoughts though and a huge assumption that the fake windows will display a view of the Thames. It could be a recorded shot of Westfield or Hammersmith Park with some ducks on the pond yet. Very Happy


Lots of people talking about the Thames being an iconic part of 'This Morning'...

I guess lots of people don't remember it used to come from Liverpool with a view of the Albert Dock?

The windows are a pretty iconic part of the 'This Morning' look, but I'm not sure the specific view through them is. I expect them to recreate a Thames view with LCD monitors when they move to TV Centre though - presumably trying to make as few changes as possible?
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

Any sign of Penny Bustin? She was always one of my favourites. Superb at Look East.


Seconded. Penny was great at Look East and all the other places she worked. Had the ability to do serious stories with credibility, but also had a sense of humour that was on-show with the lighter stories, which is pretty much vital for a BBC English regional presenter. Much missed on-screen.
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ITV abandons the South Bank

As mentioned earlier in the thread, a big consideration will be made concerning election programmes to the comms set up. It takes an enormous number of circuits and Elstree has been accordingly equipped. In the heyday of TVC, CAR in the central wedge handled a huge number of circuits within the building and the corporation as a whole. That’s no longer the case and the remaining studios there have a far simpler connection to the BBC. That’s not to say it couldn’t happen but I’d have thought it unlikely. That said, the iconic image of the facade TVC has been highlighted in the past with graphics projections (which haven’t quite worked as well at BH).


Though now the BBC is entirely IP for circuits pretty much - it's more a case of where you can get reasonably basic connectivity and physical kit. You could do the entire BBC Election show from almost any Premiere league football ground in lines terms if you wanted to I suspect...

Elstree makes sense because there is a precedent set for doing it from there, and the kit that is needed has been used there before, but the reality is that you could rig a lot of what is needed almost anywhere now.
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ITV abandons the South Bank

I'd have never have thought the Going Live/L&K studio became the BBC News studio - one seems like a warehouse, the other like a cupboard.


Though L&K did move to TC6 around 1996 (whenever it was Breakfast News/Newsround/Newsnight moved from TC2 to TC7), which was a lot bigger at least. But even the TC7 series feel like they were in a much bigger space.

Worth pointing out TC7 was never the "main" news studio anyway. It was used for the three programmes I mentioned above, then during the last few years at TVC the 6 O'clock news, and the 8PM update once that began, came from there.


Yes - and in the Barco years when the Six was in TC7, the studio had a massively reduced effective floor area compared to the earlier eras when it had physical sets.
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BBC Broadcasting House (NI) £77m upgrade

A little (but not much) more detail here http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2018/belfast-broadcasting-house regarding the work.

Blackstaff House is being retained and there will be some upgrades there too.


Should be noted that Blackstaff is a (very nice) 4-waller. The technical resources are provided by BBC Northern Ireland's OB truck - which parks up outside.
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NOW TV

Does it only have a Now/Next guide?


It does, one of the disadvantages of the Now Smart Box as it isn't made to Freeview specs.


Though that should only be an issue for the EPG on HD services. SD Freeview services use perfectly standard DVB EIT EPG carriage that any DVB-compliant receiver should be able to handle.

Freeview HD EPG content (whether carried on DVB-T or T2 muxes - is compressed using a proprietary Huffman encoding scheme - not encrypted - but the Huffman tables are only available if you are licensed by Freeview. Yes they have been reverse engineered - but using these in a commercial product could potentially breach copyright). I guess Sky don't see any point in having a partial EPG - and without recording it's less useful anyway?