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Commonwealth Games 2018 on BBC

Just seen the Salford 'studio'. My first instant thought was that it looks very CBBC...

However much sand and surf you put on an office floor, and how ever many palm trees and pot plants you put in the back of shot, you still can't escape a damp, grey Salford skyline behind you...

Such a pity they couldn't afford/haven't gone for a real studio with some nice warm, sunny, Gold Coast inspired screen images behind Clare and the guests.
Last edited by noggin on 5 April 2018 12:22am
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Good Morning Britain

030293 posted:


Wow. I'd manage to forget how badly lit and conceived the Daybreak studio was. (And that was after some improvements wasn't it?)
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Nicholas Beggs posted:
The SNT Three posted:
TellyFan posted:
Commonwealth Games: Opening Ceremony overran by fifteen minutes this lunchtime, then BBC News at ‘One’ was on air straight after.

When this sort of thing happens do programmes such as Afternoon Live standby?


15 minutes wouldn't make the News at One run beyond 2:00pm (I imagine they would sooner cut the sports/business in the back half hour). But in case of a longer delay, presumably they would delay Afternoon Live.


They would have to as both programmes are presented in the same Studio.


And given that the delayed One O'Clock News was likely to be simulcast on BBC One and the BBC News Channel, there would also be no outlet for Afternoon live to broadcast on (*) either, until the delayed One O'Clock News was off-air.
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The Sport Thread

DJGM posted:
Looking at Sky Sports Golf (via NOW TV on an old Xbox 360) while my dad has been watching the Masters Par 3 Contest, there hasn't been a DOG on-screen for a while. When I last looked a few minutes ago, it's still not there. Is this only happening via NOW TV, or is it not there on the regular satellite version of the channel either?


Isn't The Masters an anomaly in that the broadcast contract includes it being broadcast DOG-free - or am I misremembering?
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ITV abandons the South Bank

Andrew posted:
Asa posted:
JKDerry posted:
Why not quote the source then? This thread is 74 pages, please point me to where the actual confirmation link is. Thank you.


https://tvforum.uk/forums/post1106980#post-1106980

It may be 74 pages but they weren't all posted today. I'm confused how you read threads though - do you just go to the final page and not read anything else? The site does let you continue from where you last read.


People only reading the latest page of a thread does explain a lot to be fair.

Everything about the discussion of the closure of TLS has been so painful, spread across about 4 or 5 threads.


I have to say I usually start at the final post of a thread, rather than page I last read. But before posting a question I do try and read back a bit to make sure it's actually a new one.
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ITV abandons the South Bank

Hatton Cross posted:
HQ1 has a problem though. Salford.
Sorry, but the guest list that Takeaway has, usually swerves to big star London availability.

Precisely. Salford is never going to be chosen over TV Centre in London just because Salford may have more easily usable exterior space (though I wouldn't bet against there being stuff outside at TV Centre or in front of the new Westfield bit over the road)...
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Plus TVC has two different tube lines for the audience to get to/from - whereas Media City has one tram line, the 50 bus and a car park.

Yep - anyone who has tried to get to Media City to work knows how miserable that is. It's worse than Elstree...

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ITV were going to put the lads either in TVC or Elstree (although Pinewood may have been an outside bet - (one series of their awful Push The Button gameshow was recorded there), so I think on reflection it's the right choice. Let the OB inserts travel the country, pick at 'random' someone from a different part of the country to play Win The Ads each week, but the show is better off intrenched from a studio in the capital.


Push the Button was a set-standing show though wasn't it? Not sure Pinewood or Elstree are well suited to a weekly set/strike, and I doubt SNT want to do a 7 day buyout of a studio for the run?
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Commonwealth Games 2018 on BBC

p_c_u_k posted:
In fairness, aside from the odd big home medal event how many average punters are going to care about the Commonwealth Games anyway? It's slightly different when it's being held in the UK, but otherwise it's seen by many as a bit of an anachronism. The "friendly games" tag is a giveaway.

If someone's willing to pay extra cash to secure it for their channel, and if people are keen on paying that channel for the privilege, then let them.


I suspect the reality is that the Commonwealth Games are more of a duty event for the BBC than a high-profile event. They leave it later and later to confirm the rights - presumably in the hope that someone else will bid. But that never seems to happen...

I'm in no way suggesting that the BBC will be half-hearted in their coverage or commitment once they have bought the rights - the BBC Sport team are too professional to do that.

That said - the Salford 'conference room' studio for the Winter Olympics and the Commonwealth Games is a sad reflection on BBC Sport. Losing a bought-out studio like TC5 when they moved to Salford was a real pity. Personally I think the shows would look better in a nicely designed 'real' studio than an office with a view of a grey Salford skyline. Doesn't really scream 'Sunny Gold Coast'...
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London Live

Mouseboy33 posted:
noggin posted:
Mouseboy33 posted:
Especially if you employ people that dont know what the heck they are doing when it comes to creating local tv. And you build a system that was designed for local access tv rather than local commercial tv. Big difference.


However often you say this - it doesn't stop the fact that the UK and the US are totally different markets. Interesting as it is to compare - they don't really map well onto each other.

And however many times you say they are different markets, doesn't negate that fact that the people running the stations dont know that they are doing. Which is clear by what they air. (BMTV Paris is a prime example of how it should be done.) By the way CP24 and CityNews are actually Canadian not American for your information.


OK for US read North America.

Reality is that UK Local TV is being run by a very small number of not particularly well qualified people - as at the salary levels they are offering, they are the only people they can afford to recruit. As soon as they are half-way decent they desperately try to escape to a BBC or ITV regional operation I suspect.

There's no money in Local TV here, particularly now the BBC subsidy is disappearing...
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London Live

Mouseboy33 posted:
bilky asko posted:
It's almost as if it's not viable...

Especially if you employ people that dont know what the heck they are doing when it comes to creating local tv. And you build a system that was designed for local access tv rather than local commercial tv. Big difference.


However often you say this - it doesn't stop the fact that the UK and the US are totally different markets. Interesting as it is to compare - they don't really map well onto each other.
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ITV abandons the South Bank

Whataday posted:
VMPhil posted:
If Saturday Night Takeaway are allowed to make as much use of Television Centre as they do the London Studios currently, that sounds like something to look forward to.


Was very surprised to hear this news. They're going to be a lot more restricted at (New) TVC than TLS. I don't think its been thought through.


No - they'll have just chosen TC1 on a whim... After all there are so many well-equipped, large, purpose-built TV Studios with decent connectivity and flexible lighting grids available to chose from in London (heck England...) now.

Where would you suggest ITV move Takeaway to?
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The Freeview Thread

Markymark posted:
noggin posted:
Markymark posted:

Meanwhile, the disruption in London yesterday (which quite honestly is nothing new or a unique experience for everybody else outside of the London region !) will only serve to drive people to other forms of domestic delivery; satellite, cable, and 'streaming', possibly further eroding the 'case' for DTT.


Yes - though losing services that only exist on Freeview HD (and aren't available on Freesat, Sky etc.) is a bit annoying. I've lost C4+1 HD and 4SevenHD - both of which have been very useful in the past...


Nothing in your home spewing out a signal on UHF Ch 55 ? Sky Box RF Out for instance ?

My son had an early Chromecast stick, he brought it back from living in Oz for a year. Sticking it in his telly here, it wiped out the ability of his TV to receive a couple of muxes.
In the end, I had to stick it on the end of an extention HDMI cable


That's a good shout. We have a Sky HD with a modulator - I'll check what frequency it's tuned to (even though we've no UHF RF connectivity to it)

I have a LOT of other stuff that could be spewing RF...
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The Freeview Thread

London Lite posted:
noggin posted:
buster posted:
I've still got Com 7 but have lost Com 8. I actually live in Crystal Palace too...
Bit frustrating given until very recently BBC4 HD and CBeebies HD were on Com 7.
I'm sure there's some technical explanation similar to what has happened to Noggin but given I have 7 on ch55, very odd I can't get 8 on ch56. A manual tune of ch56 shows a very low and flaky signal but not enough to bring in any channels.


London Lite posted:

I live in Dulwich, with the CP transmitter visible from my living room windows. Using a Telecam TCE2000 indoor aerial, both 55 and 56 are 100%.

I've also got a cheap as chips One For All loop aerial in the kitchen, which is blocked by walls and can't see CP directly, where again all muxes are 100%.


Interestingly - just tried an indoor aerial (Philips UHF/VHF with internal amp I bought in Finland on holiday - where they have both UHF and VHF DVB-T/T2 services). I get the same result - PSB1-3, Local, COM4-6 and COM8 but no COM7. Wonder if it is a geographical quirk - the aerials are a floor apart...


What does the Digital UK website coverage checker give you for reception, using the industry mode?


100% for all muxes from CP - including COM 7 which I don't get now. Both now and in 2020.