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This Morning

trivialmatters posted:
I would be surprised if the sets are back to back. I'd imagine them to be facing one another with the cameras in the middle of the room, so they can be easily rolled between the sets.


They are two, separate, 4-walled sets in one studio. They aren't three-wallers with a central area for cameras.

Both sets can be shot 360 without seeing the other one. TC3 is big enough for this to be a sensible approach. Obviously the sets have doors and less visible access solutions to let cameras move between the two.
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Commonwealth Games 2018 on BBC

Hatton Cross posted:
The door in 'Oz' , which opened up into Victoria Square was a fire escape door on the side of Birmingham Town Hall.

OK, so I'm at a staff conference today, and they have played the Mr Blue Sky performance at the start.
So there was no steadycam or harness involved (thanks, Noggin) so am I right in thinking the two 'riser' shots over the statue, and what was the cascading fountains was done by quickly attaching the movi to the crane jibs?

Yes - the Movi had a Shotdock mounting system that apparently allowed it to attach and detach quickly to the Super Technos, and as that mounting is the 'right side' of the stabiliser, most of the jolts caused by mounting it (however carefully) are presumably smoothed out. AIUI there were two people waiting to help attach to the crane as the camera operator arrived. For the fast moving non-crane shots, vehicles were used I believe.


I heard rumblings Blue Peter may have been filming it.
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Whataday posted:
TCOTV posted:
I have to say I like the this morning set. They done a great job. I think it might need to be lit more. The floor seems darker. This might be down to the fact the wood floor colour is darker and now seems to blur into the walls colour. Also the window in the kitchen does not match the rest, but apart from that I really like it.


I don't think the lighting's ever going to be the same as before because in Studio 8 it had to be so much brighter to account for the natural light coming through the windows. Now the studio lighting doesn't have to compete with that.


That was true many years ago - but This Morning had ditched the 5Ks long ago hadn't they?

Most recently they were using Rosco Screenview or similar polarising technology to significantly reduce the light levels required to balance the windows on-camera (and if you want windows to look real, rather than keyed or like screens, you do let them burn out a tiny bit)

You're right about flooring though. Screenview only accurately reduces light directly through the windows, stuff that is reflected off floors, sofas, hair etc. will have its polarisation changed, and thus look brighter. It's a real challenge in some situations for Screenview to look 'real'. The BBC used it in Beijing on their Olympic studio - and at times blonde presenters looked like they were being backlit to within an inch of their lives when it was sunny outside...
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Inspector Sands posted:
I missed it all so will have to watch trends whole thing in context, but that shot at the beginning where the Australian woman opens the door into Victoria Square... Was she in Oz or did they just put some Gold Coast logos on the wall of a side entrance to the building?

If the former, how the heck was that done?


She was in Birmingham - they cleverly established the "lecturn + two lights in the dark" staging (where you can't really see the location on a mid-shot) in the Gold Coast stadium at the beginning of the previous music performance, but if you look carefully the mic arrangement is different in Birmingham. Very neat trick though - as the transition from Gold Coast to Birmingham has happened long before you realise it.

The Gold Coast posters were genius - they really kept you in the 'dark' until the doors opened!
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TVMoments posted:
all new Phil posted:
The fact that ratings are constantly increasing would suggest that most viewers aren’t that bothered.

I myself think that people tune in to GMB because of Piers and his ranting. Ever since he joined in 2015 the ratings have improved massively.


Think that depends on your definition of 'massive'. AIUI GMB only recently hit the levels previously hit by ITV Breakfast during one of the Daybreak eras didn't they?

On Friday - Breakfast 1.4m/37.4%, GMB 500k/17.5% (Shares and volume don't quite match because durations of two shows are different, and yes, I know Piers wasn't hosting)

However the Breakfast 1.3-1.5m vs GMB 500-600k theme seems to be reasonably consistent through April so far. AIUI historically there is a ratings bump of a small but significant amount when Piers is presenting, and it could be ITV and their advertisers are happy with their ratings and are still making a decent amount of money.

What ITV are doing - sensibly - is analysing what they can do that Breakfast demonstrably can't - and are then doing it.

However I'm not sure Piers and Susanna are demonstrating that specific presenting talent makes a massive different to ratings, just that it can make a small but still useful one.
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Blake Connolly posted:
Don't think there's any rear projection involved, is there? Large LCD screens in the This Morning set (which look surprisingly good) and a huge LED screen for GMB.


Agreed. LED matrix and LCD screens are the only video product I can see. No projection that I'm aware of. Lorraine and GMB have big LED matrix screens, and along with This Morning and Loose Women also have LCD panels.
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Andrew posted:

Of course bland and inoffensive means the highest ratings these days, which is why Breakfast is how it is, the same set in a tiny studio, with the same title and graphics, for years on end.


Plus the adverts and competitions on GMB don't help. If you switch on or surf through ITV during an ad break, or competition, you may well switch to Breakfast and stay there. Ad breaks are a fact of life - but the competitions really need to go. Or are they still premium rate - pay to enter - jobs that help bank roll the show?
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Hatton Cross posted:


I said a continous tracking shot could only be done with a very experienced (and athletic) steadycam operator - one that's done something like that whilst filming a Hollywood action blockbuster.

When watching at first I thought it was a drone, but then, if it was they must have been a great operator to get the drone to bounce up and down at speed like it was a gyroscopic steadycam.

So, it must have been a steadycam, and when I saw the crane at the far end, by the town hall, I knew that the rising shot was done by harnessing the operator to that crane and doing the lift up that way.

Except it wasn't a steadicam Smile and no harnesses were involved Smile

It was a Movi with a Sony P1 and RF link on it that was operated by one main (and AIUI a second operator or assistant for the hoops sequence?) on foot and on vehicles and also clipped on and off two Super Technocranes, no harnesses involved...

The hoop shot was achieved by two operators working together handing the camera through the hoops to each other apparently.

CTV provided the OB facilities. Nat Hill camera supervised, James Davis was the Movi operator using Shotdock and other kit supplied by Motion 24 TV, with Panavision supplying the Technos.


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All in all a brilliant piece of split second timing dance performance (and the same goes for the steadycam operator and I guess his focus puller along side- one the one hand the sheer inventiveness of it all to do it live, and on the other, for us television geeks - something to think about afterwards about just how it was done.


Except it wasn't a Steadi Smile

Rig picture here : https://www.instagram.com/p/BhnyhcMnIXu/?hl=en&taken-by=motion24_tv
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RDJ posted:
BFGArmy posted:
I almost feels like there's not really a breakfast show that suits me (if I ever have the time to watch).


Agreed. It's a gap in the market that a rival broadcaster would surely be able to take advantage of for a new programme with a bitesize regular news service.
(Take note Channel 4!.... not that they're interested anymore these days) .


Not sure it's a big enough gap in the market to tempt eyeballs and advertisers though.

What is clear is that ITV are turning themselves into the 'Anti-Breakfast'. Big studio and hosts with strong options. The two things the BBC can't offer...

However Breakfast give you a very straightforward show, with enough warmth and humour not to be stuffy, and a rock solid 'wheel' - meaning you'll get everything you want within about 30 minutes whenever you tune in.
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Cliff Richard High Court Case

BM11 posted:
Overseas reports and general speculation of if there is a super injunction have been in the press over the year's.


Not sure the BBC ever report those reports in any meaningful way unless reporting on previous lapsed ones.
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Cliff Richard High Court Case

BM11 posted:
Similar not reporting on reports of a super injunction.


Isn't the point of a Super-Injunction that you can't report on it. A report on a report on it would still count as that... You can't report on the existence of a Super-injunction at all legally.
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Inspector Sands posted:
Whataday posted:

I was under the impression that Schofe lives in Oxfordshire, but I may be wrong. Holly's journey is reduced by half however.

Buckinghamshire or Oxfordshire. Either way it's just off the A40 then, handy! Less prep time in the back of the car though.


I wonder how the trips up and down Wood Lane from studio to production office will work out, bit more difficult than just popping down a corridor


I expect there is a smaller 'on the day' production office on-site at TV Centre, with the White City offices used more by teams working further in advance (say prepping the next day's show) or doing more background stuff?